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	<title>Comments on: Margo Kingston&#8217;s Comedy Central&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Cameron Riley</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17652</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuse to deep link to Kingston, Henderson and Sheehan amongst others. I also made sure the SMH knew I was doing it and why;

http://www.southsearepublic.org/story/2005/1/20/84417/4560

I am doing it to deprive them of potential advertising revenue by denying them referrals. I would encourage anyone else not happy to email the SMH (or any other newspaper) and tell them you wont be deep linking to certain writers. 

This is the contact url for the SMH;

  http://smh.com.au/contacts/readerlink/

or;

  readerlink@smh.com.au

The only way to stop them is to deny the SMH potential revenue. The Australian political blogs have sufficient weight of numbers that if we all start telling the SMH the same thing the writers we target will get dropped.

Same goes for any other newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refuse to deep link to Kingston, Henderson and Sheehan amongst others. I also made sure the SMH knew I was doing it and why;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.southsearepublic.org/story/2005/1/20/84417/4560">http://www.southsearepublic.org/story/2005/1/20/84417/4560</a></p>
<p>I am doing it to deprive them of potential advertising revenue by denying them referrals. I would encourage anyone else not happy to email the SMH (or any other newspaper) and tell them you wont be deep linking to certain writers. </p>
<p>This is the contact url for the SMH;</p>
<p>  <a href="http://smh.com.au/contacts/readerlink/">http://smh.com.au/contacts/readerlink/</a></p>
<p>or;</p>
<p>  <a href="mailto:readerlink@smh.com.au">readerlink@smh.com.au</a></p>
<p>The only way to stop them is to deny the SMH potential revenue. The Australian political blogs have sufficient weight of numbers that if we all start telling the SMH the same thing the writers we target will get dropped.</p>
<p>Same goes for any other newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wickstein</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17653</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wickstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Australian political blogs have sufficient weight of numbers that if we all start telling the SMH the same thing the writers we target will get dropped.&quot;

Alas, not even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Australian political blogs have sufficient weight of numbers that if we all start telling the SMH the same thing the writers we target will get dropped.&#8221;</p>
<p>Alas, not even close.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Riley</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17654</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to love that climb the mountain because it is there attitude. The Frill Neck makes itself appear larger than it is. It is also surprising just what an overly vocal minority can get done. 

Even if you think it is useless - tell the SMH which site you are from, how you arent going to deep link certain writers and that you want those writers dropped. Tell them about it each month.

Otherwise we are going to continue to get the writers the SMH thinks they can foist on us, rather than the quality political discourse we deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to love that climb the mountain because it is there attitude. The Frill Neck makes itself appear larger than it is. It is also surprising just what an overly vocal minority can get done. </p>
<p>Even if you think it is useless &#8211; tell the SMH which site you are from, how you arent going to deep link certain writers and that you want those writers dropped. Tell them about it each month.</p>
<p>Otherwise we are going to continue to get the writers the SMH thinks they can foist on us, rather than the quality political discourse we deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17655</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can never figure out what Margo is on about, anyway. I don&#039;t think she is really anti-semitic, she is just loopy and not particularly bright. Why she has such a loyal following is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can never figure out what Margo is on about, anyway. I don&#8217;t think she is really anti-semitic, she is just loopy and not particularly bright. Why she has such a loyal following is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17656</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appropos selling out.    Stephen Mayne is quoted in today&#039;s Age Insight thus:  Tim Blair&#039;s move to his full-time job with the Bulletin is &quot;a sad sell-out. I would never have sold my soul to Packer&quot;

I couldn&#039;t help thinking that Blair had already sold his soul, and that Packer should be pissed off that he doesn&#039;t receive free and unencumbered title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appropos selling out.    Stephen Mayne is quoted in today&#8217;s Age Insight thus:  Tim Blair&#8217;s move to his full-time job with the Bulletin is &#8220;a sad sell-out. I would never have sold my soul to Packer&#8221;</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t help thinking that Blair had already sold his soul, and that Packer should be pissed off that he doesn&#8217;t receive free and unencumbered title.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17657</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This woman thinks writing a chapter of a book is hard work.&quot;

It can be very hard work, or not. I am reminded of some famous author - perhaps Lawrence, but I&#039;ve forgotten - who reported an exhausting day. Asked to elaborate, he explained that he had added a comma in the morning, and then taken it out in the afternoon. 

The crazy thing is that writing can be such an intensely demanding craft that it&#039;s conceivable that the story might have even been literally true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This woman thinks writing a chapter of a book is hard work.&#8221;</p>
<p>It can be very hard work, or not. I am reminded of some famous author &#8211; perhaps Lawrence, but I&#8217;ve forgotten &#8211; who reported an exhausting day. Asked to elaborate, he explained that he had added a comma in the morning, and then taken it out in the afternoon. </p>
<p>The crazy thing is that writing can be such an intensely demanding craft that it&#8217;s conceivable that the story might have even been literally true.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17658</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course writing a chapter can be hard work.  I don&#039;t even understand what you mean, Scott.  Do you mean that its easy because it isn&#039;t physical or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course writing a chapter can be hard work.  I don&#8217;t even understand what you mean, Scott.  Do you mean that its easy because it isn&#8217;t physical or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Yobbo</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17659</link>
		<dc:creator>Yobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Digging a ditch is hard work. Writing a chapter is recreation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digging a ditch is hard work. Writing a chapter is recreation.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17660</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only if it takes the same mental effort as digging the ditch, Yobbo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if it takes the same mental effort as digging the ditch, Yobbo.</p>
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		<title>By: David Tiley</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17661</link>
		<dc:creator>David Tiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing Crikey and Webdiary is interesting. Crikey is very good at the ratbag journalist skill of publishing with graded credibility. There is a sense of intelligent scepticism about the whole enteprise. 

Webdiary has no sense of discipline, of editorial control. How could Margo produce that single statement: &quot;Because the fundamentalist Zionist lobby controls politics and the media in the US and Australia..&quot; without listening for the sound of blowtorches? She was going to get trouble if it was or was not true.

Not the kind of mistake you would find on Crikey, old or new. Interesting that Steven Mayne seems to value shareholder activism more than whistleblowing journalism. And sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing Crikey and Webdiary is interesting. Crikey is very good at the ratbag journalist skill of publishing with graded credibility. There is a sense of intelligent scepticism about the whole enteprise. </p>
<p>Webdiary has no sense of discipline, of editorial control. How could Margo produce that single statement: &#8220;Because the fundamentalist Zionist lobby controls politics and the media in the US and Australia..&#8221; without listening for the sound of blowtorches? She was going to get trouble if it was or was not true.</p>
<p>Not the kind of mistake you would find on Crikey, old or new. Interesting that Steven Mayne seems to value shareholder activism more than whistleblowing journalism. And sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Gummo Trotsky</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17662</link>
		<dc:creator>Gummo Trotsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chapter Ones are a real bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chapter Ones are a real bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Honnor</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17663</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Honnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Crikey is very good at the ratbag journalist skill of publishing with graded credibility. There is a sense of intelligent scepticism about the whole enteprise.&quot;

Crikey&#039;s pitch is insider gossip. People love gossip - particularly if it seems privileged. Somewhere along the line, Stephen Mayne - wasn&#039;t he the eminence grise behind the uniquely unsuccessful &quot;Jeff Kennett is Louis XIV&quot;  re-election bid? - has seemingly managed to convince the commentariat that he&#039;s some sort of Emile Zola. But Crikey will always be the Latham bucks night video &#039;revelation&#039; to me :)

You shouldn&#039;t try to read Jack Robertson, Scott. It&#039;s like watching a crazy guy crashing through  adjectival thickets, pursued by baying editors waving red pens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Crikey is very good at the ratbag journalist skill of publishing with graded credibility. There is a sense of intelligent scepticism about the whole enteprise.&#8221;</p>
<p>Crikey&#8217;s pitch is insider gossip. People love gossip &#8211; particularly if it seems privileged. Somewhere along the line, Stephen Mayne &#8211; wasn&#8217;t he the eminence grise behind the uniquely unsuccessful &#8220;Jeff Kennett is Louis XIV&#8221;  re-election bid? &#8211; has seemingly managed to convince the commentariat that he&#8217;s some sort of Emile Zola. But Crikey will always be the Latham bucks night video &#8216;revelation&#8217; to me :)</p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t try to read Jack Robertson, Scott. It&#8217;s like watching a crazy guy crashing through  adjectival thickets, pursued by baying editors waving red pens.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17664</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chapter Ones can defeat the strongest of wills. Yet I always find that there is another shocker waiting down the track, somewhere in the middle, perhaps two-thirds of the way in, if you are employing, for example, the 19th century realist novel form. Once I&#039;ve managed to stare down a chapter one, it&#039;s tempting to relax, but I still know at the back of my mind that there will always be a real ball-breaker to come ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chapter Ones can defeat the strongest of wills. Yet I always find that there is another shocker waiting down the track, somewhere in the middle, perhaps two-thirds of the way in, if you are employing, for example, the 19th century realist novel form. Once I&#8217;ve managed to stare down a chapter one, it&#8217;s tempting to relax, but I still know at the back of my mind that there will always be a real ball-breaker to come &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17665</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, I once went through a Chapter Five that I wouldn&#039;t wish on my worst enemy ...

*shudders at the mere thought*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, I once went through a Chapter Five that I wouldn&#8217;t wish on my worst enemy &#8230;</p>
<p>*shudders at the mere thought*</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17666</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno about &quot;like&quot;; it IS watching a crazy guy crashing through adjectival thickets.  But at Margo&#039;s place there are no baying editors waving red pens.  Margo would&#039;t know illiterate babble if it jumped up and bit her on one of her body parts that produces the stuff she doesn&#039;t flush.  If she was baying, you&#039;d know it was full moon.

As for writing book chapters being hard work, it certainly CAN be.  But it depends on the book.  I didn&#039;t bother to buy Margo&#039;s &quot;not happy john&quot; tome, but I scanned it on a friend&#039;s bookshelf and it looked to be the same stream-of-semi-consciousness crap that she, Jack etc spew forth in Web Diary.  But I shouldn&#039;t be too sweeping.  Although Margo and Jack write little that is intelligible let alone intelligent, some of the other regular Web Diary contributors are often worth reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno about &#8220;like&#8221;; it IS watching a crazy guy crashing through adjectival thickets.  But at Margo&#8217;s place there are no baying editors waving red pens.  Margo would&#8217;t know illiterate babble if it jumped up and bit her on one of her body parts that produces the stuff she doesn&#8217;t flush.  If she was baying, you&#8217;d know it was full moon.</p>
<p>As for writing book chapters being hard work, it certainly CAN be.  But it depends on the book.  I didn&#8217;t bother to buy Margo&#8217;s &#8220;not happy john&#8221; tome, but I scanned it on a friend&#8217;s bookshelf and it looked to be the same stream-of-semi-consciousness crap that she, Jack etc spew forth in Web Diary.  But I shouldn&#8217;t be too sweeping.  Although Margo and Jack write little that is intelligible let alone intelligent, some of the other regular Web Diary contributors are often worth reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17667</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really is a RWDB post! 

You lot sound like a bunch of jealous old misogynists (not part of the PellAbbott fan club are you?).  If you had just 0.001% of Kingston&#039;s audience we&#039;d be able to hear you shouting down here in Sydney!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really is a RWDB post! </p>
<p>You lot sound like a bunch of jealous old misogynists (not part of the PellAbbott fan club are you?).  If you had just 0.001% of Kingston&#8217;s audience we&#8217;d be able to hear you shouting down here in Sydney!  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17668</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron

I&#039;m glad you&#039;ve realised that this isn&#039;t a monotonically left-leaning blog.  In fact Troppo contributors have widely divergent, quirky and sometimes unpredictable viewpoints on lots of issues.

Speaking for myself, my objection to Margo and Jack has nothing to do with their left or right political orientation.  I have enormous respect for lots of left-leaning op-ed pundits and bloggers (e.g. Chris Sheil, Tim Dunlop, John Quiggin, Mark Bahnisch).  It&#039;s simply that Margo and Jack mostly produce material that is both loopy and poorly written. Crap knows no ideological boundaries.

As for your comment about audience size, I imagine that Web Diary&#039;s audience would probably be larger than any blog with the possible exception of Tim Blair&#039;s.  But that&#039;s because it&#039;s a part of a mega-million dollar Fairfax publishing empire that&#039;s existed for a century or so, rather than because of its innate quality.  I suggest the audience of radio &quot;shock-jocks&quot; like John Laws, Alan Jones or Stan Zemanek would in turn dwarf that of Web Diary (or Tim Blair).  In your opinion, does that mean that those commentators are entitled to automatic respect for their opinions or manner of expressing them?  If not, why the double standard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve realised that this isn&#8217;t a monotonically left-leaning blog.  In fact Troppo contributors have widely divergent, quirky and sometimes unpredictable viewpoints on lots of issues.</p>
<p>Speaking for myself, my objection to Margo and Jack has nothing to do with their left or right political orientation.  I have enormous respect for lots of left-leaning op-ed pundits and bloggers (e.g. Chris Sheil, Tim Dunlop, John Quiggin, Mark Bahnisch).  It&#8217;s simply that Margo and Jack mostly produce material that is both loopy and poorly written. Crap knows no ideological boundaries.</p>
<p>As for your comment about audience size, I imagine that Web Diary&#8217;s audience would probably be larger than any blog with the possible exception of Tim Blair&#8217;s.  But that&#8217;s because it&#8217;s a part of a mega-million dollar Fairfax publishing empire that&#8217;s existed for a century or so, rather than because of its innate quality.  I suggest the audience of radio &#8220;shock-jocks&#8221; like John Laws, Alan Jones or Stan Zemanek would in turn dwarf that of Web Diary (or Tim Blair).  In your opinion, does that mean that those commentators are entitled to automatic respect for their opinions or manner of expressing them?  If not, why the double standard?</p>
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		<title>By: David Tiley</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17669</link>
		<dc:creator>David Tiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not jealous, disappointed and frustrated. 

Does she have a huge audience? Connected to SMH, you would hope so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not jealous, disappointed and frustrated. </p>
<p>Does she have a huge audience? Connected to SMH, you would hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, connection to the SMH is, of course, an obvious advantage.  (Is that an understatement or what?)

However, she must be producing the goods for her audience to continue returning.

Personally, I just read the topics there these days: who&#039;s got time to wade through comments that sometimes number in the hundreds?

Still one of my favourite blogs, Ken.  I like the variety that comes from having several contributors. Sometimes on single person political blogs, the same pov on all articles gets to be a tad tiresome.  I think Ms Fits (Reasons you will hate me) was so popular on those recent blog awards because you are guaranteed a laugh or something outrageous most days (today&#039;s post is heart-stopper - turn you off sausages for life!)

&#039;monotonically&#039; - hmmm... as I rush off to dictionary.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, connection to the SMH is, of course, an obvious advantage.  (Is that an understatement or what?)</p>
<p>However, she must be producing the goods for her audience to continue returning.</p>
<p>Personally, I just read the topics there these days: who&#8217;s got time to wade through comments that sometimes number in the hundreds?</p>
<p>Still one of my favourite blogs, Ken.  I like the variety that comes from having several contributors. Sometimes on single person political blogs, the same pov on all articles gets to be a tad tiresome.  I think Ms Fits (Reasons you will hate me) was so popular on those recent blog awards because you are guaranteed a laugh or something outrageous most days (today&#8217;s post is heart-stopper &#8211; turn you off sausages for life!)</p>
<p>&#8216;monotonically&#8217; &#8211; hmmm&#8230; as I rush off to dictionary.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17671</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Still one of my favourite blogs&quot;  - I was referring to Troppowith this, not Web Diary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Still one of my favourite blogs&#8221;  &#8211; I was referring to Troppowith this, not Web Diary.</p>
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		<title>By: John Quiggin</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17672</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quiggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone wants to enjoy themselves writing book chapters, I&#039;ve overcommitted myself badly. How about 5000 words on uncertainty and property rights in the Murray-Darling Basin?While you&#039;re engaged in this recreation, I could mow my lawn and plant a tree or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone wants to enjoy themselves writing book chapters, I&#8217;ve overcommitted myself badly. How about 5000 words on uncertainty and property rights in the Murray-Darling Basin?While you&#8217;re engaged in this recreation, I could mow my lawn and plant a tree or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hill</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17673</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was Flaubert who spent the day inserting and deleting a comma - stylish prose can take a lifetime to construct. Anyone who has edited and re-edited and re-edited to the point where you are uncertain whether you are sharpening the work or grounding it into a messy pulp of strange fragments knows exactly how this feels. 

Yes, one can a write a not particularly good chapter in a short period of time, like one can do an essay the night before it is due. And sometimes one can produce a lot of material in a short period of time but this is generally after it has been thought out to some extent. When it comes to a quality most novels that are written in a couple of weeks, read like novels written in a couple of weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was Flaubert who spent the day inserting and deleting a comma &#8211; stylish prose can take a lifetime to construct. Anyone who has edited and re-edited and re-edited to the point where you are uncertain whether you are sharpening the work or grounding it into a messy pulp of strange fragments knows exactly how this feels. </p>
<p>Yes, one can a write a not particularly good chapter in a short period of time, like one can do an essay the night before it is due. And sometimes one can produce a lot of material in a short period of time but this is generally after it has been thought out to some extent. When it comes to a quality most novels that are written in a couple of weeks, read like novels written in a couple of weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Second John&#039;s offer regarding thesis chapters I could use...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Second John&#8217;s offer regarding thesis chapters I could use&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2005/02/04/margo-kingstons-comedy-central/#comment-17675</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps - I think Ken is mistaking the Ron in this comments thread for a Ron in another comments thread. Two Rons to add to Troppo&#039;s numerous Jameses who comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps &#8211; I think Ken is mistaking the Ron in this comments thread for a Ron in another comments thread. Two Rons to add to Troppo&#8217;s numerous Jameses who comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a better take elsewhere in the SMH on the Crikey sale:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/02/04/1107476806777.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a better take elsewhere in the SMH on the Crikey sale:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/02/04/1107476806777.html">http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/02/04/1107476806777.html</a></p>
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