Comments on: And then you go and spoil it all . . . http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/04/11/and-then-you-go-and-spoil-it-all/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:01:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: observa http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/04/11/and-then-you-go-and-spoil-it-all/#comment-31302 observa Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:50:08 +0000 http://www.clubtroppo.com.au/2006/04/11/and-then-you-go-and-spoil-it-all/#comment-31302 Looks like they've really gone and spoiled it for you now http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18800451-2,00.html Looks like they’ve really gone and spoiled it for you now http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18800451-2,00.html

]]> By: The Bartlett Diaries http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/04/11/and-then-you-go-and-spoil-it-all/#comment-31284 The Bartlett Diaries Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:26:59 +0000 http://www.clubtroppo.com.au/2006/04/11/and-then-you-go-and-spoil-it-all/#comment-31284 <strong>more West Papua info - UPDATED</strong> This post contains links to more articles providing background on the West Papua issue. ... more West Papua info – UPDATED

This post contains links to more articles providing background on the West Papua issue.
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]]> By: Patrick http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/04/11/and-then-you-go-and-spoil-it-all/#comment-31213 Patrick Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:30:31 +0000 http://www.clubtroppo.com.au/2006/04/11/and-then-you-go-and-spoil-it-all/#comment-31213 Although as analogies go this one is more, not less, imperfect. Principally with respect of the nature of the foreign government concerned, and also with respect of the treatment suffered by the minority. That, of course, cuts both ways - but I think it makes the analogy of very limited value. The most important flaw is that the government in Indonesia is probably not inherently evil, and destabilising it might be, indeed would be very likely to be, worse than supporting it. It is also arguably reasonably receptive to desirable changes. Even from a human rights perspective, the argument for 'winning' every battle here is not clearcut. Although as analogies go this one is more, not less, imperfect.

Principally with respect of the nature of the foreign government concerned, and also with respect of the treatment suffered by the minority. That, of course, cuts both ways – but I think it makes the analogy of very limited value.

The most important flaw is that the government in Indonesia is probably not inherently evil, and destabilising it might be, indeed would be very likely to be, worse than supporting it. It is also arguably reasonably receptive to desirable changes.

Even from a human rights perspective, the argument for ‘winning’ every battle here is not clearcut.

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