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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s wrong with the Genuine Progress Indicator? Part One</title>
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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Measures of wellbeing, health and longevity</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/08/04/whats-wrong-with-the-genuine-progress-indicator-part-one/#comment-432466</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Measures of wellbeing, health and longevity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 06:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] written a few times on measures of wellbeing on Troppo. For instance here and here. (In fact, reviewing it, I can&#8217;t find both of my articles for New Matilda on the Australia [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] written a few times on measures of wellbeing on Troppo. For instance here and here. (In fact, reviewing it, I can&#8217;t find both of my articles for New Matilda on the Australia [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Children, human capital and economic growth</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/08/04/whats-wrong-with-the-genuine-progress-indicator-part-one/#comment-102590</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Children, human capital and economic growth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be easily compared, the things they look at seem reasonable and not very biased as such measures often are in alternative &#8216;wellbeing&#8217; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be easily compared, the things they look at seem reasonable and not very biased as such measures often are in alternative &#8216;wellbeing&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ian K</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/08/04/whats-wrong-with-the-genuine-progress-indicator-part-one/#comment-40528</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 04:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your argument that positives as well as negatives should be assessed when adjusting GDP. 

One thing I struggle with in this context is how to assess resource depletion. Are natural resources a national asset or part of a global patrimony? While future generations of Australians may benefit from the resource depletion of earlier Australians via increased physical capital, knowledge, etc unless such wealth increases somehow filter out as well to the billions of human beings living on $2 a day is such depletion justified in a wider context? The way the world is currently set up I cannot see that it can be assumed that current consumption and its byproducts (eg global warming) will be compensated by future gains by the world&#039;s poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your argument that positives as well as negatives should be assessed when adjusting GDP. </p>
<p>One thing I struggle with in this context is how to assess resource depletion. Are natural resources a national asset or part of a global patrimony? While future generations of Australians may benefit from the resource depletion of earlier Australians via increased physical capital, knowledge, etc unless such wealth increases somehow filter out as well to the billions of human beings living on $2 a day is such depletion justified in a wider context? The way the world is currently set up I cannot see that it can be assumed that current consumption and its byproducts (eg global warming) will be compensated by future gains by the world&#8217;s poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Angharad</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/08/04/whats-wrong-with-the-genuine-progress-indicator-part-one/#comment-40236</link>
		<dc:creator>Angharad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 06:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the greatest contribution the GPI (and other indicators of that ilk) is to challenge GDP as an indicator of progress. 

A few years ago I wrote a (small) thesis on measuring progress. Around the same time I was on an ABS reference group for their &quot;measures of Australia&#039;s progress&quot;.  The ABS didn&#039;t go for the single indicator model - indeed they struggled to find both reliable data and indicators for each of the measures.

But - without a considerable amount of work and challenges to the orthodoxy, these sorts of new ways of considering well-being and progress might never have been considered.  My thesis looked at whether Australia was ready for genuine engagement with progress that was broader than reductionist economic indicators and I interviewed influential people at very senior levels in various policy circles.  I found support, but also pessimism about whether it would be possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the greatest contribution the GPI (and other indicators of that ilk) is to challenge GDP as an indicator of progress. </p>
<p>A few years ago I wrote a (small) thesis on measuring progress. Around the same time I was on an ABS reference group for their &#8220;measures of Australia&#8217;s progress&#8221;.  The ABS didn&#8217;t go for the single indicator model &#8211; indeed they struggled to find both reliable data and indicators for each of the measures.</p>
<p>But &#8211; without a considerable amount of work and challenges to the orthodoxy, these sorts of new ways of considering well-being and progress might never have been considered.  My thesis looked at whether Australia was ready for genuine engagement with progress that was broader than reductionist economic indicators and I interviewed influential people at very senior levels in various policy circles.  I found support, but also pessimism about whether it would be possible.</p>
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		<title>By: derrida derider</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/08/04/whats-wrong-with-the-genuine-progress-indicator-part-one/#comment-40220</link>
		<dc:creator>derrida derider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 01:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the counterproductive nature of the GPI.  But what always amazes me is the nostalgia of baby-boomer lefties for the 1950s - a period that they rightly revolted against in their youth.

A lot of these people&#039;s thinking really does belong on John Howard&#039;s side of the white picket fence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the counterproductive nature of the GPI.  But what always amazes me is the nostalgia of baby-boomer lefties for the 1950s &#8211; a period that they rightly revolted against in their youth.</p>
<p>A lot of these people&#8217;s thinking really does belong on John Howard&#8217;s side of the white picket fence.</p>
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