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	<title>Comments on: The citizen as juror</title>
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		<title>By: Yobbo</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/09/14/the-citizen-as-juror/#comment-48002</link>
		<dc:creator>Yobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 04:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A planet where children don&#039;t usually have their own income?

What planet do you live on Chris?

Just for argument&#039;s sake, what percentage of fat children do you think are purchasing their own food?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A planet where children don&#8217;t usually have their own income?</p>
<p>What planet do you live on Chris?</p>
<p>Just for argument&#8217;s sake, what percentage of fat children do you think are purchasing their own food?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/09/14/the-citizen-as-juror/#comment-47658</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great short post Don. If you want to read balanced (aka waffly) analysis of current issues you have to visit blogs like Troppo. &quot;Children do not have their own income.&quot; What planet does this bloke live on??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great short post Don. If you want to read balanced (aka waffly) analysis of current issues you have to visit blogs like Troppo. &#8220;Children do not have their own income.&#8221; What planet does this bloke live on??</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/09/14/the-citizen-as-juror/#comment-47654</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 01:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or &quot;Big Yobbo caused by Bad Government&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or &#8220;Big Yobbo caused by Bad Government&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Don Arthur</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/09/14/the-citizen-as-juror/#comment-47629</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a new post:

&#039;BIG GOVERNMENT CAUSED BY BAD PARENTS&#039; SAYS YOBBO

Parents who can&#039;t say &#039;no&#039; are driving up taxes and burdening the nation with unecessary regulation, says a leading internet commentator...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a new post:</p>
<p>&#8216;BIG GOVERNMENT CAUSED BY BAD PARENTS&#8217; SAYS YOBBO</p>
<p>Parents who can&#8217;t say &#8216;no&#8217; are driving up taxes and burdening the nation with unecessary regulation, says a leading internet commentator&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/09/14/the-citizen-as-juror/#comment-47618</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Nick - though the problem varies with what media you use. The biggest challenge for me is radio, where often you will have only a soundbite to explain yourself, not enough time to even provide your own reasoning and evidence, let alone acknowledge other people&#039;s. But where I have more space I do provide the other side&#039;s arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nick &#8211; though the problem varies with what media you use. The biggest challenge for me is radio, where often you will have only a soundbite to explain yourself, not enough time to even provide your own reasoning and evidence, let alone acknowledge other people&#8217;s. But where I have more space I do provide the other side&#8217;s arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Yobbo</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/09/14/the-citizen-as-juror/#comment-47565</link>
		<dc:creator>Yobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is the childhood obesity epidemic caused by irresponsible fast food chains or by lax parenting and lazy kids?&quot;

How is this even a debate?

Just as many skinny kids watch Saturday morning cartoons as fat kids do.

The difference is not all their parents feed them Coco Pops and McDonalds. Children do not have their own income. They cannot make choices about what food they eat.

The fact that you even suggest this is a valid question labels you as a liar.

The actual debate is as such:

&quot;Should Parents be allowed to make all choices pertaining to their own children&#039;s diet, or should the government force their hand?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is the childhood obesity epidemic caused by irresponsible fast food chains or by lax parenting and lazy kids?&#8221;</p>
<p>How is this even a debate?</p>
<p>Just as many skinny kids watch Saturday morning cartoons as fat kids do.</p>
<p>The difference is not all their parents feed them Coco Pops and McDonalds. Children do not have their own income. They cannot make choices about what food they eat.</p>
<p>The fact that you even suggest this is a valid question labels you as a liar.</p>
<p>The actual debate is as such:</p>
<p>&#8220;Should Parents be allowed to make all choices pertaining to their own children&#8217;s diet, or should the government force their hand?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/09/14/the-citizen-as-juror/#comment-47562</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often get told by journalists that they want my messages to be &#039;crisper&#039; - I try to make it interesting and to get across my &#039;messages&#039; but with appropriate caveats.  They don&#039;t like them - they think I&#039;m waffling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often get told by journalists that they want my messages to be &#8216;crisper&#8217; &#8211; I try to make it interesting and to get across my &#8216;messages&#8217; but with appropriate caveats.  They don&#8217;t like them &#8211; they think I&#8217;m waffling.</p>
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