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		<title>By: Mick Pacholli</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-71851</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Pacholli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of Jack&#039;s so-called &#039;Gutter Journalism&#039; was in fact information passed on to him from parties knowledgeable about the stories he was breaking. It was proven time and again that what Jack wrote, and was vilified for writing, was in fact the truth of the matter, told only because the other media outlets were too gutless to let the public become aware of the facts.

After his passing many mainstream hacks started on their merry way of demonising my father, but this was heavily outwieghed by the response from the many battlers for whom he took up the sword. You are right about one thing though, he did change the face of publishing in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of Jack&#8217;s so-called &#8216;Gutter Journalism&#8217; was in fact information passed on to him from parties knowledgeable about the stories he was breaking. It was proven time and again that what Jack wrote, and was vilified for writing, was in fact the truth of the matter, told only because the other media outlets were too gutless to let the public become aware of the facts.</p>
<p>After his passing many mainstream hacks started on their merry way of demonising my father, but this was heavily outwieghed by the response from the many battlers for whom he took up the sword. You are right about one thing though, he did change the face of publishing in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: broken left leg</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-68116</link>
		<dc:creator>broken left leg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landeryou writes &quot;Many journalists are effectively immune from the effects of lawsuits because their employers pick up the tab and are insured anyway.&quot;
Who is he kidding? The fact that he is bankrupt and not worth suing is the reason why he has never received a defamation writ.
Empty pockets is his insurance not accuracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Landeryou writes &#8220;Many journalists are effectively immune from the effects of lawsuits because their employers pick up the tab and are insured anyway.&#8221;<br />
Who is he kidding? The fact that he is bankrupt and not worth suing is the reason why he has never received a defamation writ.<br />
Empty pockets is his insurance not accuracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Taztigger</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67970</link>
		<dc:creator>Taztigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I know that old man Kennedy runs a pretty sharp eye over the plates before the NT News goes to press each day.&quot;

He would have to have a very sharp eye to see the plates from Cullen Bay. Kennedy is home and in bed well before the paper goes to press.

If he does see the plates before they go to press why does he correct the errors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know that old man Kennedy runs a pretty sharp eye over the plates before the NT News goes to press each day.&#8221;</p>
<p>He would have to have a very sharp eye to see the plates from Cullen Bay. Kennedy is home and in bed well before the paper goes to press.</p>
<p>If he does see the plates before they go to press why does he correct the errors?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67937</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Many journalists are effectively immune from the effects of lawsuits because their employers pick up the tab and are insured anyway.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It varies from paper to paper. I know that old man Kennedy runs a pretty sharp eye over the plates before the &lt;em&gt;NT News&lt;/em&gt; goes to press each day.

Defo cases cost big bucks and raise the ire of the Head Office, Profit Be Upon Them. Insurance only covers payouts, it doesn&#039;t do much for lawyer&#039;s fees. If a journo puts the company in the line of fire twice I expect they&#039;d be politely told to get lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Many journalists are effectively immune from the effects of lawsuits because their employers pick up the tab and are insured anyway.</p></blockquote>
<p>It varies from paper to paper. I know that old man Kennedy runs a pretty sharp eye over the plates before the <em>NT News</em> goes to press each day.</p>
<p>Defo cases cost big bucks and raise the ire of the Head Office, Profit Be Upon Them. Insurance only covers payouts, it doesn&#8217;t do much for lawyer&#8217;s fees. If a journo puts the company in the line of fire twice I expect they&#8217;d be politely told to get lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Fyodor</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67702</link>
		<dc:creator>Fyodor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong both times, munnkey. 

Why don&#039;t you look up the meaning of the word &quot;blasphemy&quot; before you abuse it again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong both times, munnkey. </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you look up the meaning of the word &#8220;blasphemy&#8221; before you abuse it again?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony.T</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67701</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony.T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet at least three of the test cricketers who played with Greg Chappell breathed a sigh of relief when his injunction was upheld. From what I know, Greg Chappell is small bananas in the Extramarital Business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet at least three of the test cricketers who played with Greg Chappell breathed a sigh of relief when his injunction was upheld. From what I know, Greg Chappell is small bananas in the Extramarital Business.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67605</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahia

blasphemy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahia</p>
<p>blasphemy</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken
The more light in a room the better for the people. By controlling speech we end up with that vestibule of deranged law like the Bracks blashemy laws.
Let the light through and we should decide what is good journalism and what is bad stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken<br />
The more light in a room the better for the people. By controlling speech we end up with that vestibule of deranged law like the Bracks blashemy laws.<br />
Let the light through and we should decide what is good journalism and what is bad stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67554</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It alleged, without foundation, &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It alleged, without foundation, &#8220;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67552</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Andrew: Game on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Andrew: Game on.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis X Holden</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67546</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis X Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It alleged, without foundation, ...................that, when I went to the ministerial wing, women tried to avoid me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well I&#039;m guessing it might well be true now, if it wasn&#039;t before. Not only will the ministerial wing women avoid him, so will men, politicans and sensible school boys in all other places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It alleged, without foundation, &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.that, when I went to the ministerial wing, women tried to avoid me.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well I&#8217;m guessing it might well be true now, if it wasn&#8217;t before. Not only will the ministerial wing women avoid him, so will men, politicans and sensible school boys in all other places.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Landeryou</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67543</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Landeryou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[paragraph deleted]

By contrast, my blog of freedom is a labour of love. It&#039;s not something I could sell, note the lack of even a domain name, it&#039;s a free site on blogspot. And while it&#039;s serious to me, it&#039;s hard to argue that I&#039;m doing it for money, which is what your post implies.

In fact, I&#039;m yet to work out which charity will receive the small amount of revenue we&#039;ve collected from Google Adsense, perhaps you can make a suggestion.

So your lengthy laboured comparison of us to an old sleaze who has much more in common with Crikey and Stephen Mayne is quite wrong.

My blog of freedom preceded Solomon Lew bankrupting me on the most spurious of grounds. No defamation lawsuits before then. Not one. Not even a threat of one.

My blog of freedom is published by one of the world&#039;s largest media companies. No defamation lawsuits served on them. Not one. Not even a threat of one.

And for the record, as I was reminded recently the Toorak Times used to regularly slag off my old man. I have no plans to emulate such a publication I assure you.

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As for defamation law, I agree it should be stricter. Many journalists are effectively immune from the effects of lawsuits because their employers pick up the tab and are insured anyway. I&#039;d like to see them(us) personally liable. But that won&#039;t be happening any time soon.

This was easily the most amusing day I&#039;ve had in nearly 3000 posts. I have proved an important point. Despite their bravado, their acid and bluster very many Australian journalists are completely unwilling to face any kind of scrutiny of their own actions, let alone liability for their attacks on others.

That one blog story, hardly my biggest, caused a couple of supposedly seasoned journalists to wrestle it out on the stage of a supposedly prestigious nationally televised journalists&#039; union awards night shows just how unused to scrutiny they are.

And I can promise this. We&#039;ve only just begun.</description>
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<p>By contrast, my blog of freedom is a labour of love. It&#8217;s not something I could sell, note the lack of even a domain name, it&#8217;s a free site on blogspot. And while it&#8217;s serious to me, it&#8217;s hard to argue that I&#8217;m doing it for money, which is what your post implies.</p>
<p>In fact, I&#8217;m yet to work out which charity will receive the small amount of revenue we&#8217;ve collected from Google Adsense, perhaps you can make a suggestion.</p>
<p>So your lengthy laboured comparison of us to an old sleaze who has much more in common with Crikey and Stephen Mayne is quite wrong.</p>
<p>My blog of freedom preceded Solomon Lew bankrupting me on the most spurious of grounds. No defamation lawsuits before then. Not one. Not even a threat of one.</p>
<p>My blog of freedom is published by one of the world&#8217;s largest media companies. No defamation lawsuits served on them. Not one. Not even a threat of one.</p>
<p>And for the record, as I was reminded recently the Toorak Times used to regularly slag off my old man. I have no plans to emulate such a publication I assure you.</p>
<p>[paragraph deleted]</p>
<p>As for defamation law, I agree it should be stricter. Many journalists are effectively immune from the effects of lawsuits because their employers pick up the tab and are insured anyway. I&#8217;d like to see them(us) personally liable. But that won&#8217;t be happening any time soon.</p>
<p>This was easily the most amusing day I&#8217;ve had in nearly 3000 posts. I have proved an important point. Despite their bravado, their acid and bluster very many Australian journalists are completely unwilling to face any kind of scrutiny of their own actions, let alone liability for their attacks on others.</p>
<p>That one blog story, hardly my biggest, caused a couple of supposedly seasoned journalists to wrestle it out on the stage of a supposedly prestigious nationally televised journalists&#8217; union awards night shows just how unused to scrutiny they are.</p>
<p>And I can promise this. We&#8217;ve only just begun.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67542</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the twists and turns of the continuing Milne/Mayne saga. Two newly involved colourful characters... violence, betrayal ,mistaken identities,threats and innuendo. This story has more legs than a caterpillar. Bags first rights to the opera or play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the twists and turns of the continuing Milne/Mayne saga. Two newly involved colourful characters&#8230; violence, betrayal ,mistaken identities,threats and innuendo. This story has more legs than a caterpillar. Bags first rights to the opera or play.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67539</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read Milne&#039;s piece it&#039;s pretty poor.  If you do the wrong thing, you apologise. He&#039;s done that at least in form.  And I guess there&#039;s nothing wrong with a little explanation.  What comes through in the article of course is a brazen lack of contrition for &#039;going the biff&#039;.  His mistake?  To do it in public. And, what&#039;s worse, in front of cameras!  Shame shame shame - etc. 

Disappointed,

Port Melbourne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read Milne&#8217;s piece it&#8217;s pretty poor.  If you do the wrong thing, you apologise. He&#8217;s done that at least in form.  And I guess there&#8217;s nothing wrong with a little explanation.  What comes through in the article of course is a brazen lack of contrition for &#8216;going the biff&#8217;.  His mistake?  To do it in public. And, what&#8217;s worse, in front of cameras!  Shame shame shame &#8211; etc. </p>
<p>Disappointed,</p>
<p>Port Melbourne.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67538</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landeryou&#039;s site is so outrageous that one would expect to find all sorts of awful things on it that one would presume are the worst kind of tittle tattle. I know Evan Thornley a bit and he gets a regular shellacking on Landeryou&#039;s site all of it bogus from what I can see. So I presume it&#039;s all untrue until proven otherwise. Still, that&#039;s an outsider&#039;s view.  If I were a victim I expect I&#039;d feel a bit differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Landeryou&#8217;s site is so outrageous that one would expect to find all sorts of awful things on it that one would presume are the worst kind of tittle tattle. I know Evan Thornley a bit and he gets a regular shellacking on Landeryou&#8217;s site all of it bogus from what I can see. So I presume it&#8217;s all untrue until proven otherwise. Still, that&#8217;s an outsider&#8217;s view.  If I were a victim I expect I&#8217;d feel a bit differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Bannerman</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67534</link>
		<dc:creator>Bannerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Says much about Milne. Especially after his unrepentant slagging of Mayne on &lt;em&gt;Insiders&lt;/em&gt; last Sunday. But perhaps that&#039;s because Sunday was &lt;strong&gt;before&lt;/strong&gt; he&#039;d done his research? Tsk! Tsk! Mr Milne! Such tardiness for one supposedly not philandering the women in the Ministerial wing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Says much about Milne. Especially after his unrepentant slagging of Mayne on <em>Insiders</em> last Sunday. But perhaps that&#8217;s because Sunday was <strong>before</strong> he&#8217;d done his research? Tsk! Tsk! Mr Milne! Such tardiness for one supposedly not philandering the women in the Ministerial wing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67522</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Today Crikey&#039;s other muckraking political correspondent Christian Kerr &#039;fessed up that it was actually he who had linked to the unnamed blogger!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought you didn&#039;t read Crikey Ken!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/02/not-boned/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trackback&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Today Crikey&#8217;s other muckraking political correspondent Christian Kerr &#8216;fessed up that it was actually he who had linked to the unnamed blogger!</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought you didn&#8217;t read Crikey Ken!</p>
<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/02/not-boned/">Trackback</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hyperidian Bannerman</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/04/a-bloggers-the-culprit/#comment-67521</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hyperidian Bannerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ruddy Reactions...&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#8217;s been a disjointed day for your Bannerman. Firstly a network failure at the coal face followed by a very late start to the working day, which thanks to a faster than November broadband plan passed&#8230;..well, faster than expected. The......</description>
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<p>It&rsquo;s been a disjointed day for your Bannerman. Firstly a network failure at the coal face followed by a very late start to the working day, which thanks to a faster than November broadband plan passed&hellip;..well, faster than expected. The&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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