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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/06/bastard-complete-and-utter/#comment-68339</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 05:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The example of the keyless car is telling is it not?&quot;

Yes indeed, although not as funny as the Lord Acton quote about rowing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The example of the keyless car is telling is it not?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes indeed, although not as funny as the Lord Acton quote about rowing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/06/bastard-complete-and-utter/#comment-68337</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 05:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because they invited me and then suggested I pay to go.  I&#039;m supposed to earn money at those events, not spend it. 

So you&#039;ve been reading a bit of the old Lateral Economics I see.  The example of the keyless car is telling is it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because they invited me and then suggested I pay to go.  I&#8217;m supposed to earn money at those events, not spend it. </p>
<p>So you&#8217;ve been reading a bit of the old Lateral Economics I see.  The example of the keyless car is telling is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/06/bastard-complete-and-utter/#comment-68334</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m generally with you too there Mr D.

Although I&#039;ve often found Americans to be much entertained by good old Australian sardonic self-deprecation.

Whenever I&#039;ve been asked in the States &quot;And what do you do?&quot; I&#039;d usually reply;
&quot;Oh the usual. Sleep in late, drink and smoke too much, eat fatty foods, gamble, fornicate and take the Lord&#039;s name in vain.&quot;
  
Which reminds me. I&#039;ve always wanted to take out a personal in the NYRB that read:
&quot;Multimillionaire SWM with the looks of a greek god, wise, witty, well-travelled and well-read, sensitive yet down to earth not seeking anyone. Just wanted to gloat.&quot;

Oh and speaking of seminrs and such talkfests, how come you weren&#039;t at the BRW Innovation Summit yesterday Nick? We could have had a good chat about keyless cars and Lord Acton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m generally with you too there Mr D.</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;ve often found Americans to be much entertained by good old Australian sardonic self-deprecation.</p>
<p>Whenever I&#8217;ve been asked in the States &#8220;And what do you do?&#8221; I&#8217;d usually reply;<br />
&#8220;Oh the usual. Sleep in late, drink and smoke too much, eat fatty foods, gamble, fornicate and take the Lord&#8217;s name in vain.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which reminds me. I&#8217;ve always wanted to take out a personal in the NYRB that read:<br />
&#8220;Multimillionaire SWM with the looks of a greek god, wise, witty, well-travelled and well-read, sensitive yet down to earth not seeking anyone. Just wanted to gloat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh and speaking of seminrs and such talkfests, how come you weren&#8217;t at the BRW Innovation Summit yesterday Nick? We could have had a good chat about keyless cars and Lord Acton.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Fuller</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/06/bastard-complete-and-utter/#comment-68294</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Denmore,
I&#039;m very much with your sentiments, especially the second paragraph of your post.
My speculation is that this has a lot to do with the rise of a consultant&#039;s culture, where people are constantly &quot;selling&quot; themselves, although it&#039;s certainly becoming more true within organisations also. Under these circumstances, self-deprecation of the p***-taking kind is suicidal.
Joanna Murray-Smith remarked on this phenomenon, when she returned to Melbourne after living in New York for around three years (I think this was early-mid 1990s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Denmore,<br />
I&#8217;m very much with your sentiments, especially the second paragraph of your post.<br />
My speculation is that this has a lot to do with the rise of a consultant&#8217;s culture, where people are constantly &#8220;selling&#8221; themselves, although it&#8217;s certainly becoming more true within organisations also. Under these circumstances, self-deprecation of the p***-taking kind is suicidal.<br />
Joanna Murray-Smith remarked on this phenomenon, when she returned to Melbourne after living in New York for around three years (I think this was early-mid 1990s).</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Denmore</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/06/bastard-complete-and-utter/#comment-68289</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Denmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A similar thought struck me this week when I attended a lunchtime &#039;networking&#039; seminar hosted by one of those boilerplate motivational speakers who blathered on about techniques for making a good first impression.

It was the usual motherhood stuff about firm handshakes, smiles, polished shoes and expensive suits. And it got me thinking how the great British-derived Australian tradition of self-deprecation and laconic humour is gradually being drained out of us by American sales culture.

This just doesn&#039;t apply to business. You see it in the social world as well. Everyone&#039;s frantically out there &#039;selling&#039; themselves- and all in the same way. In business, the cheesy &quot;can-do&quot; rhetoric is now positively gag-inducing. In society, everyone man, woman and their dogs are selling themselves as &quot;fun-loving risk-takers with a wicked sense of humour&quot;.

To me, it&#039;s yet another symbol of how our entire lives are being taken over by market economics. Time to reclaim the commons. That&#039;s probably why that ad in the London Review of Books resonated as it did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A similar thought struck me this week when I attended a lunchtime &#8216;networking&#8217; seminar hosted by one of those boilerplate motivational speakers who blathered on about techniques for making a good first impression.</p>
<p>It was the usual motherhood stuff about firm handshakes, smiles, polished shoes and expensive suits. And it got me thinking how the great British-derived Australian tradition of self-deprecation and laconic humour is gradually being drained out of us by American sales culture.</p>
<p>This just doesn&#8217;t apply to business. You see it in the social world as well. Everyone&#8217;s frantically out there &#8216;selling&#8217; themselves- and all in the same way. In business, the cheesy &#8220;can-do&#8221; rhetoric is now positively gag-inducing. In society, everyone man, woman and their dogs are selling themselves as &#8220;fun-loving risk-takers with a wicked sense of humour&#8221;.</p>
<p>To me, it&#8217;s yet another symbol of how our entire lives are being taken over by market economics. Time to reclaim the commons. That&#8217;s probably why that ad in the London Review of Books resonated as it did.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/06/bastard-complete-and-utter/#comment-68212</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Age also wrote this up last month, which &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/11/06/literary-dating/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I blogged on&lt;/a&gt; at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Age also wrote this up last month, which <a href="http://andrewnorton.info/blog/2006/11/06/literary-dating/">I blogged on</a> at the time.</p>
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