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		<title>By: dan mcguinness</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan mcguinness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone better wake up that we are telling the whole world about the concealment of criminal offences and confusion of the truth, and denial of justice to white and black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone better wake up that we are telling the whole world about the concealment of criminal offences and confusion of the truth, and denial of justice to white and black.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/14/queenslands-justice-system-has-anything-changed/#comment-94797</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the acting coroner&#039;s report and took a view on certain things. However I don&#039;t feel at liberty to comment if Wilkinson is getting charged for contempt for expressing his view. Was it his criticism or his expression in doing it that was a problem?

In the hypothetical is it contempt if a judicial decision is made that is implausible based on the evidence and is obtuse to expert opinion and someone comments? I thought judges decisions get commented on all the time. Surely once judgement is handed down it is fair game? What is the line where judicial censorship kicks in?

Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the acting coroner&#8217;s report and took a view on certain things. However I don&#8217;t feel at liberty to comment if Wilkinson is getting charged for contempt for expressing his view. Was it his criticism or his expression in doing it that was a problem?</p>
<p>In the hypothetical is it contempt if a judicial decision is made that is implausible based on the evidence and is obtuse to expert opinion and someone comments? I thought judges decisions get commented on all the time. Surely once judgement is handed down it is fair game? What is the line where judicial censorship kicks in?</p>
<p>Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Ross James</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/14/queenslands-justice-system-has-anything-changed/#comment-71421</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The case is so very sad.

It has been discussed at length (from a laypersons point of view) on the Hot Copper site and there are many thoughts on the question as to why (they should have) or, why they didn&#039;t (the DPP), proceed with a charge.

I feel that the following (taken from one of these posts on this thread)  has given me a strong enough reason to now understand things a whole lot better.

Let me share it with you:

&quot;I am far from convinced of his innocence </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The case is so very sad.</p>
<p>It has been discussed at length (from a laypersons point of view) on the Hot Copper site and there are many thoughts on the question as to why (they should have) or, why they didn&#8217;t (the DPP), proceed with a charge.</p>
<p>I feel that the following (taken from one of these posts on this thread)  has given me a strong enough reason to now understand things a whole lot better.</p>
<p>Let me share it with you:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am far from convinced of his innocence</p>
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		<title>By: David Jackmanson</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/14/queenslands-justice-system-has-anything-changed/#comment-70990</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jackmanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Wednesday, December 20, at midday, there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://letstakeover.blogspot.com/2006/12/mulrunjis-killer-will-not-be-charged.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a rally in Queens Park, Brisbane City - the rally will call for DPP Clare to be dismissed, and S/Sgt Hurley to be charged.&lt;/a&gt;

Queens Park is on the corner of George and Elizabeth Sts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Wednesday, December 20, at midday, there is <a href="http://letstakeover.blogspot.com/2006/12/mulrunjis-killer-will-not-be-charged.html" rel="nofollow">a rally in Queens Park, Brisbane City &#8211; the rally will call for DPP Clare to be dismissed, and S/Sgt Hurley to be charged.</a></p>
<p>Queens Park is on the corner of George and Elizabeth Sts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/14/queenslands-justice-system-has-anything-changed/#comment-70430</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew makes a very good point:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Just last week, an appeal Court decided to extend the jail sentences of Aboriginal men involved in the riots after the death in custody, in part because the Judges decided &quot;there was a need for a message to be sent to deter similar behaviour.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew makes a very good point:</p>
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Just last week, an appeal Court decided to extend the jail sentences of Aboriginal men involved in the riots after the death in custody, in part because the Judges decided &#8220;there was a need for a message to be sent to deter similar behaviour.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: The Bartlett Diaries</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/12/14/queenslands-justice-system-has-anything-changed/#comment-70422</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bartlett Diaries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;No charges over Palm Island death...&lt;/strong&gt;

The news that the Queensland Director of Public Prosecutions has decided not to lay charges against the police sergeant involved in the death of an Aboriginal man on Palm Island two years ago will seriously damage any faith Indigenous people have in th...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>No charges over Palm Island death&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The news that the Queensland Director of Public Prosecutions has decided not to lay charges against the police sergeant involved in the death of an Aboriginal man on Palm Island two years ago will seriously damage any faith Indigenous people have in th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Let's Take Over</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let's Take Over</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rally for justice, Midday, Wed December 20...&lt;/strong&gt;

Ken Parish at Club Troppo has written an article about today&#039;s decision. He has also quoted fom an online essay by Chloe Hooper called The Tall Man, from the Monthly magazine, about Mulrunji&#039;s death....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rally for justice, Midday, Wed December 20&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Ken Parish at Club Troppo has written an article about today&#8217;s decision. He has also quoted fom an online essay by Chloe Hooper called The Tall Man, from the Monthly magazine, about Mulrunji&#8217;s death&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/14/whats-with-the-queensland-dpp/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trackback&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/14/whats-with-the-queensland-dpp/" rel="nofollow">Trackback</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m at a loss to understand, Ken, how the DPP gets from what appear to be very clear and unambiguous findings by the Coroner to a conclusion that the evidence shouldn&#039;t be tested. As you say, surely, the credibility issues of Hurley and others are relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m at a loss to understand, Ken, how the DPP gets from what appear to be very clear and unambiguous findings by the Coroner to a conclusion that the evidence shouldn&#8217;t be tested. As you say, surely, the credibility issues of Hurley and others are relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark

Nor have I, but in October just past, no doubt in a bid to pre-empt those proceedings, the police union president &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20572412-3102,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;apologised to the coroner&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr Wilkinson apologised for his comments, after the handing down of the report, that Ms Clements had conducted a &quot;witch-hunt&quot; and had ignored &quot;mountains of evidence&quot; to hang the officer out to dry.

He had also called on the Director of Public Prosecutions to &quot;see through this rubbish&quot;, reject the findings and &quot;throw it in the bin where it belongs&quot;.

&quot;I wish to emphasise that I did not mean to question the impartiality or personal integrity of the acting coroner or indeed to reflect upon the Magistrate&#039;s Court itself,&quot; he said.

&quot;If any comments of mine have given that impression, I apologise.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark</p>
<p>Nor have I, but in October just past, no doubt in a bid to pre-empt those proceedings, the police union president <a href="http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20572412-3102,00.html" rel="nofollow">apologised to the coroner</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr Wilkinson apologised for his comments, after the handing down of the report, that Ms Clements had conducted a &#8220;witch-hunt&#8221; and had ignored &#8220;mountains of evidence&#8221; to hang the officer out to dry.</p>
<p>He had also called on the Director of Public Prosecutions to &#8220;see through this rubbish&#8221;, reject the findings and &#8220;throw it in the bin where it belongs&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;I wish to emphasise that I did not mean to question the impartiality or personal integrity of the acting coroner or indeed to reflect upon the Magistrate&#8217;s Court itself,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;If any comments of mine have given that impression, I apologise.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post, Ken. I really hope it isn&#039;t as a result of a fear of offending the bloody police union.

The decision not to prosecute is at great odds with the findings of the coroner:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Queensland Deputy State Coroner, Christine Clements, last week published findings concerning the death of an Aboriginal man on Palm Island, about 70 kilometres off Townsville. He was found dead in a police cell in November 2004 less than an hour after being arrested for swearing as he was walking home.

Clements found that Snr Sgt Chris Hurley angrily punched the man a number of times while he was still on the floor and &quot;that these actions of Hurley caused the fatal injuries.&quot; She noted that his &quot;liver was virtually completely ruptured ... cleaved in two&quot;. His cries for help as he lay dying on the cement floor were either unheard or ignored by police in the station.

Clements also found that this man (referred to as Mulrunji in the proceedings) should never have been arrested, and severely criticised the entire police investigation. She added that &quot;clear directives from the Police Commissioner and a commitment to ensure proper standards of investigation are required to restore public confidence.&quot; She was referring to the palpable lack of interest and obstructiveness of some senior police called to give evidence at the inquest. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s from an article by Brisbane defence lawyer Andrew Boe.

http://www.brisinst.org.au/resources/boe_andrew_coronersreport.html

The Police Union president was summonsed to appear in court by the Attorney-General, Kerry Shine, on 29 November for contempt over his remarks about the Coroner. 

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Qld-official-summonsed-over-Palm-comment/2006/11/17/1163266775992.html

But I haven&#039;t seen any report of the court proceedings against him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post, Ken. I really hope it isn&#8217;t as a result of a fear of offending the bloody police union.</p>
<p>The decision not to prosecute is at great odds with the findings of the coroner:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Queensland Deputy State Coroner, Christine Clements, last week published findings concerning the death of an Aboriginal man on Palm Island, about 70 kilometres off Townsville. He was found dead in a police cell in November 2004 less than an hour after being arrested for swearing as he was walking home.</p>
<p>Clements found that Snr Sgt Chris Hurley angrily punched the man a number of times while he was still on the floor and &#8220;that these actions of Hurley caused the fatal injuries.&#8221; She noted that his &#8220;liver was virtually completely ruptured &#8230; cleaved in two&#8221;. His cries for help as he lay dying on the cement floor were either unheard or ignored by police in the station.</p>
<p>Clements also found that this man (referred to as Mulrunji in the proceedings) should never have been arrested, and severely criticised the entire police investigation. She added that &#8220;clear directives from the Police Commissioner and a commitment to ensure proper standards of investigation are required to restore public confidence.&#8221; She was referring to the palpable lack of interest and obstructiveness of some senior police called to give evidence at the inquest. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s from an article by Brisbane defence lawyer Andrew Boe.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.brisinst.org.au/resources/boe_andrew_coronersreport.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.brisinst.org.au/resources/boe_andrew_coronersreport.html</a></p>
<p>The Police Union president was summonsed to appear in court by the Attorney-General, Kerry Shine, on 29 November for contempt over his remarks about the Coroner. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Qld-official-summonsed-over-Palm-comment/2006/11/17/1163266775992.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Qld-official-summonsed-over-Palm-comment/2006/11/17/1163266775992.html</a></p>
<p>But I haven&#8217;t seen any report of the court proceedings against him.</p>
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