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	<title>Comments on: The more things change . . .</title>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/04/29/the-more-things-change/#comment-118186</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 16:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never joined these special airline lounge clubs as I really can't see the need. I get to the airport close to the fly time, or at least when required to, buy my own reading material and sit at the boarding gate and wait.

I used to go to these lounges but found them very confining in the sense that i would get a little worried I would miss my flight if I wasn't at the boarding gate. The orange juice is never fresh anyway.

"When it comes to the lounges, Iâ€™m stuffed if I understand why Qantas bothers to set up a plush version of the Qantas Club to provide free entry plus food and grog to a group of people who mostly fly business class and wouldnâ€™t be seen dead on Virgin."

I like Virgin. It's a little utilitarian but at least it isn't Qantas who a truly despise.

I would guess the club offers Qantas the carry through image to international travel where they have serous competition with say Sing airlines... the best in the world. Best food, entertainment, new planes, courteous staff. Just traveled to Paris with them and will never ever switch back to Qantas again.I am now a Qantas free traveler. 



Good post by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never joined these special airline lounge clubs as I really can&#8217;t see the need. I get to the airport close to the fly time, or at least when required to, buy my own reading material and sit at the boarding gate and wait.</p>
<p>I used to go to these lounges but found them very confining in the sense that i would get a little worried I would miss my flight if I wasn&#8217;t at the boarding gate. The orange juice is never fresh anyway.</p>
<p>&#8220;When it comes to the lounges, Iâ€™m stuffed if I understand why Qantas bothers to set up a plush version of the Qantas Club to provide free entry plus food and grog to a group of people who mostly fly business class and wouldnâ€™t be seen dead on Virgin.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like Virgin. It&#8217;s a little utilitarian but at least it isn&#8217;t Qantas who a truly despise.</p>
<p>I would guess the club offers Qantas the carry through image to international travel where they have serous competition with say Sing airlines&#8230; the best in the world. Best food, entertainment, new planes, courteous staff. Just traveled to Paris with them and will never ever switch back to Qantas again.I am now a Qantas free traveler. </p>
<p>Good post by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidLeyonhjelm</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/04/29/the-more-things-change/#comment-117645</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidLeyonhjelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virgin Blue is not really a one class airline any more. It has flexible and non-flexible fares, the most costly of the former being known as "Corporate Plus".  

Seat space is the same and everyone still gets addressed as "ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls" when buying their own food, but flexible fare holders sit closer to the front. That has practical value when a quick exit to the taxi queue is required. 

Qantas has a more defined class system. Business class is considerably more expensive than fully flexible economy, but there is more room and different food in addition to seats up the front. It kind of makes sense though, as I understand the profit on business class seats is far higher than economy. 

When it comes to the lounges, I'm stuffed if I understand why Qantas bothers to set up a plush version of the Qantas Club to provide free entry plus food and grog to a group of people who mostly fly business class and wouldn't be seen dead on Virgin. The ordinary Qantas Club makes sense - it costs money to belong, there is obvious demand and it's standard airline practice worldwide. The Chairman's Lounge defies logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virgin Blue is not really a one class airline any more. It has flexible and non-flexible fares, the most costly of the former being known as &#8220;Corporate Plus&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Seat space is the same and everyone still gets addressed as &#8220;ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls&#8221; when buying their own food, but flexible fare holders sit closer to the front. That has practical value when a quick exit to the taxi queue is required. </p>
<p>Qantas has a more defined class system. Business class is considerably more expensive than fully flexible economy, but there is more room and different food in addition to seats up the front. It kind of makes sense though, as I understand the profit on business class seats is far higher than economy. </p>
<p>When it comes to the lounges, I&#8217;m stuffed if I understand why Qantas bothers to set up a plush version of the Qantas Club to provide free entry plus food and grog to a group of people who mostly fly business class and wouldn&#8217;t be seen dead on Virgin. The ordinary Qantas Club makes sense - it costs money to belong, there is obvious demand and it&#8217;s standard airline practice worldwide. The Chairman&#8217;s Lounge defies logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/04/29/the-more-things-change/#comment-117641</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a beautiful post. My family lived in the UK for a number of years, and my father was obsessed with Roman ruins. He took us all over Britain to see vestiges of brickwork and stonework. Then we went to France for the summer holidays. Dad was grinning as we entered Nimes, saying "Spot the Roman ruin!" My sister and I were looking for brickwork on the ground, and Dad said "Try looking up - straight ahead of you!" We were gobsmacked.

As for the swings and roundabouts of fashion and society? What can I say but "Plus Ã§a change, plus câ€™est la mÃªme chose"...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a beautiful post. My family lived in the UK for a number of years, and my father was obsessed with Roman ruins. He took us all over Britain to see vestiges of brickwork and stonework. Then we went to France for the summer holidays. Dad was grinning as we entered Nimes, saying &#8220;Spot the Roman ruin!&#8221; My sister and I were looking for brickwork on the ground, and Dad said &#8220;Try looking up - straight ahead of you!&#8221; We were gobsmacked.</p>
<p>As for the swings and roundabouts of fashion and society? What can I say but &#8220;Plus Ã§a change, plus câ€™est la mÃªme chose&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Soon</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/04/29/the-more-things-change/#comment-117639</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Soon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colour me ignorant. I didn't even know such a thing as the Chairman's Lounge existed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colour me ignorant. I didn&#8217;t even know such a thing as the Chairman&#8217;s Lounge existed.</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/04/29/the-more-things-change/#comment-117631</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: My Nimes amphitheatre bullfight experience is &lt;a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2515" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. My Qantas Chairman's Lounge narrative is &lt;a href="http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2006/08/06/an-aristocracy-of-effort/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: My Nimes amphitheatre bullfight experience is <a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2515" >here</a>. My Qantas Chairman&#8217;s Lounge narrative is <a href="http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2006/08/06/an-aristocracy-of-effort/" >here</a>.</p>
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