Comments on: Senators Acting Like, Well, Senators http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/06/14/senators-acting-like-well-senators/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:04:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: cam http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/06/14/senators-acting-like-well-senators/#comment-130031 cam Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:36:36 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/06/14/senators-acting-like-well-senators/#comment-130031 Nice troll ChrisPer, I shall not bite. If you are being fair dinkum, then it only reinforces the final paragraph in the post. Nice troll ChrisPer, I shall not bite. If you are being fair dinkum, then it only reinforces the final paragraph in the post.

]]> By: ChrisPer http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/06/14/senators-acting-like-well-senators/#comment-130021 ChrisPer Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:30:06 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/06/14/senators-acting-like-well-senators/#comment-130021 As far as I was concerned , the Democrats were the worst of our parties and their decline couldn't happen to a more deserving crowd. I gave them my first vote (remember 'keep the bastards honest'?) but they turned into a party whose expressed values were the worst of political correctness: life as moral posing, unrelated to reality or intellectual consistency. If Sen Bartlett has achieved something, I am pleasantly surprised to learn it; the last article on him in the media was something about wine - maybe 5 years ago? Its probably easier to 'act senatorial' when nobody cares anymore. As far as I was concerned , the Democrats were the worst of our parties and their decline couldn’t happen to a more deserving crowd.

I gave them my first vote (remember ‘keep the bastards honest’?) but they turned into a party whose expressed values were the worst of political correctness: life as moral posing, unrelated to reality or intellectual consistency.

If Sen Bartlett has achieved something, I am pleasantly surprised to learn it; the last article on him in the media was something about wine – maybe 5 years ago?

Its probably easier to ‘act senatorial’ when nobody cares anymore.

]]> By: Ken Lovell http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/06/14/senators-acting-like-well-senators/#comment-129714 Ken Lovell Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:15:29 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/06/14/senators-acting-like-well-senators/#comment-129714 People like Andrew Bartlett undercut the whole fabric of our parliamentary system, which allows us to know whether someone is talking nonsense or enlightened wisdom simply by noting which side of the house they are sitting on. Bartlett's methods would require MPs to actually listen to what others were saying in debates. This would be a monumental waste of MPs' time and energy because half the speeches, by definition, are rubbish. The consequences would be the neglect of the proper business of an MP, namely poring over polls and planning how to get on radio and television. For a fuller explanation read the masterly work of C Northcote Parkinson; published, alas, long before the intertubes were even thought of so no link. People like Andrew Bartlett undercut the whole fabric of our parliamentary system, which allows us to know whether someone is talking nonsense or enlightened wisdom simply by noting which side of the house they are sitting on.

Bartlett’s methods would require MPs to actually listen to what others were saying in debates. This would be a monumental waste of MPs’ time and energy because half the speeches, by definition, are rubbish. The consequences would be the neglect of the proper business of an MP, namely poring over polls and planning how to get on radio and television.

For a fuller explanation read the masterly work of C Northcote Parkinson; published, alas, long before the intertubes were even thought of so no link.

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