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		<title>By: Adverts on Larvatus Prodeo at Kieran Bennett</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-253891</link>
		<dc:creator>Adverts on Larvatus Prodeo at Kieran Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Club Troppo was recently forced to upgrade it&#8217;s hosting, they turned to their readers. Their donation drive aimed for $1200, it was exceeded. Shortly afterwoulds they abandoned advertising: It never really [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-161430</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two payments have come through - ingolf and JC. Just a few left to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two payments have come through &#8211; ingolf and JC. Just a few left to go!</p>
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		<title>By: amphibious</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-161112</link>
		<dc:creator>amphibious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques,
Following your chivvy-up, I&#039;ve tried again, 3rd or 4th time?. The BSB pops upas Central Credit Union so at least thus far is OK.
Let me know, one way or tuther, asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques,<br />
Following your chivvy-up, I&#8217;ve tried again, 3rd or 4th time?. The BSB pops upas Central Credit Union so at least thus far is OK.<br />
Let me know, one way or tuther, asap.</p>
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		<title>By: Ingolf</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-161080</link>
		<dc:creator>Ingolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques, just got your email indicating my EFT hadn&#039;t gone through. Tried to reply by email but don&#039;t have the appropriate security code (or something!). 

Anyway, went back and checked my account and after confirming the transfer and debiting it to my account on the 24th, two days later the bank (CBA) unwound it and charged me $2.50 for the privilege. Gawd.

I suspect from Christopher&#039;s comment it has to do with the account name (I too used Troppo). I&#039;ll try again now with Jacques Chester.

Let me know if that doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques, just got your email indicating my EFT hadn&#8217;t gone through. Tried to reply by email but don&#8217;t have the appropriate security code (or something!). </p>
<p>Anyway, went back and checked my account and after confirming the transfer and debiting it to my account on the 24th, two days later the bank (CBA) unwound it and charged me $2.50 for the privilege. Gawd.</p>
<p>I suspect from Christopher&#8217;s comment it has to do with the account name (I too used Troppo). I&#8217;ll try again now with Jacques Chester.</p>
<p>Let me know if that doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-160529</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great - apologies for the confusion.

cheers,
Christopher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great &#8211; apologies for the confusion.</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Christopher</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-160466</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 04:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: it came through on the account just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: it came through on the account just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-160228</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I was sure there were two Christophers - I&#039;ve got a &quot;Chris&quot; here on a cheque!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I was sure there were two Christophers &#8211; I&#8217;ve got a &#8220;Chris&#8221; here on a cheque!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-160227</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, that&#039;s annoying. Perhaps you could try Paypal or send a cheque?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, that&#8217;s annoying. Perhaps you could try Paypal or send a cheque?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-160146</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques,

sorry - been tied up (and couldn&#039;t quickly figure out paypal..so I&#039;m a luddite)

First christopher#1 and christopher#2 are one and the same.

Just tried again - using your name for account rather than &#039;club troppo&#039; (noted as &#039;cheers christopher&#039; on your account)

if it fails again, we&#039;ll have to add CBA to Westpac, NAB as the last of the big 3 that won&#039;t play with your financier.

cheers,
Christopher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques,</p>
<p>sorry &#8211; been tied up (and couldn&#8217;t quickly figure out paypal..so I&#8217;m a luddite)</p>
<p>First christopher#1 and christopher#2 are one and the same.</p>
<p>Just tried again &#8211; using your name for account rather than &#8216;club troppo&#8217; (noted as &#8216;cheers christopher&#8217; on your account)</p>
<p>if it fails again, we&#8217;ll have to add CBA to Westpac, NAB as the last of the big 3 that won&#8217;t play with your financier.</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Christopher</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-160144</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry, it came through, thanks. If you scroll down to the bottom of the front page you can see which list your name is on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, it came through, thanks. If you scroll down to the bottom of the front page you can see which list your name is on.</p>
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		<title>By: hc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-159101</link>
		<dc:creator>hc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sent please confirm receipt.</description>
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		<title>By: amphibious</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-158514</link>
		<dc:creator>amphibious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My useless &amp; apparently shameless gouger is NAB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My useless &amp; apparently shameless gouger is NAB.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-158468</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, PayPal seem to be streets ahead of the banks in the convenience stakes. We really do have a sickeningly backwards system here in Australia vis-a-vis transfers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, PayPal seem to be streets ahead of the banks in the convenience stakes. We really do have a sickeningly backwards system here in Australia vis-a-vis transfers.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-158082</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add - make the letter as polite and to the point as possible if you actually want the money back. If the letter is abusive in any way they are allowed to ignore it or just send a standard form letter back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add &#8211; make the letter as polite and to the point as possible if you actually want the money back. If the letter is abusive in any way they are allowed to ignore it or just send a standard form letter back.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-158081</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew (Norton),
Mine went through Westpac on line banking- no problem (and no fee).

For all those who it failed, I would suggest sending the bank a letter detailing the problem, insisting the details were correct (give every detail you have including dates, receipt number etc.). Mention the banking ombudsman and the fees should be reimbursed quick smart. You may even get an apology.
The worst thing that could happen is that they actually have to earn the fee they have already charged you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew (Norton),<br />
Mine went through Westpac on line banking- no problem (and no fee).</p>
<p>For all those who it failed, I would suggest sending the bank a letter detailing the problem, insisting the details were correct (give every detail you have including dates, receipt number etc.). Mention the banking ombudsman and the fees should be reimbursed quick smart. You may even get an apology.<br />
The worst thing that could happen is that they actually have to earn the fee they have already charged you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-158077</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve chucked in twenty bucks via Paypal. Sorry it&#039;s not more - because I only get paid by Griffith during semester (and there&#039;s a bit of a lag between the start of semester and when we actually get paid!) I&#039;m broke at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve chucked in twenty bucks via Paypal. Sorry it&#8217;s not more &#8211; because I only get paid by Griffith during semester (and there&#8217;s a bit of a lag between the start of semester and when we actually get paid!) I&#8217;m broke at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-158004</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paypal is very efficient, and now Jacques has more than $150.00, there will be no fees, or at most only a dollar or two. It&#039;s actually a better system than the bank. Oh, and I&#039;ll name and shame the NAB, which caused my irritation aways up the thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paypal is very efficient, and now Jacques has more than $150.00, there will be no fees, or at most only a dollar or two. It&#8217;s actually a better system than the bank. Oh, and I&#8217;ll name and shame the NAB, which caused my irritation aways up the thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-157900</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll name and shame Westpac. It has bounced twice now. I double and triple checked the account details. But at least they don&#039;t seem to be charging at this point. I will take a look a PayPal tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll name and shame Westpac. It has bounced twice now. I double and triple checked the account details. But at least they don&#8217;t seem to be charging at this point. I will take a look a PayPal tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-157891</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all very annoying as I do see other payments coming through fine. Useless bloody banks the lot of them. Perhaps we could do a name-and-shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all very annoying as I do see other payments coming through fine. Useless bloody banks the lot of them. Perhaps we could do a name-and-shame.</p>
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		<title>By: amphibious</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-157887</link>
		<dc:creator>amphibious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry jacques, same thing happened again. The money bounced back less than 48 hours later.
I&#039;ve sent other money using this system so there&#039;s nothing wrong at this end.
Again, the &#039;explanation&#039; was that the details were invalid.
I&#039;d rather send $50 in a letter than let banks on both ends rip out $5 each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry jacques, same thing happened again. The money bounced back less than 48 hours later.<br />
I&#8217;ve sent other money using this system so there&#8217;s nothing wrong at this end.<br />
Again, the &#8216;explanation&#8217; was that the details were invalid.<br />
I&#8217;d rather send $50 in a letter than let banks on both ends rip out $5 each.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-157811</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 06:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques,

Like amphibious - my $50 was bounced back to my account (sent on 23rd, returned on the 24th) with the message &#039;DE NO ACCOUNT&#039; (less a fee...banks can&#039;t do anything without charging!)

yet the transfer was sent to: 805-050 63038723 

which lines up with the information provided above.

Wonder if it was a weekend effect?  I&#039;ll try again.

cheers,
Christopher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques,</p>
<p>Like amphibious &#8211; my $50 was bounced back to my account (sent on 23rd, returned on the 24th) with the message &#8216;DE NO ACCOUNT&#8217; (less a fee&#8230;banks can&#8217;t do anything without charging!)</p>
<p>yet the transfer was sent to: 805-050 63038723 </p>
<p>which lines up with the information provided above.</p>
<p>Wonder if it was a weekend effect?  I&#8217;ll try again.</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Christopher</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-157724</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - you will need to update the total again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; you will need to update the total again.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-157687</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, I didn&#039;t use my name when transferring money, I just called it &quot;Donation to CT&quot;. 

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, I didn&#8217;t use my name when transferring money, I just called it &#8220;Donation to CT&#8221;. </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-157513</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit stumped about that one, amphibious. Those details are certainly correct. 

You could try using PayPal, if you&#039;re comfortable with that service. They do charge a percentage but they&#039;re quick and easy.

Otherwise, send a cheque and I&#039;ll cash it locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit stumped about that one, amphibious. Those details are certainly correct. </p>
<p>You could try using PayPal, if you&#8217;re comfortable with that service. They do charge a percentage but they&#8217;re quick and easy.</p>
<p>Otherwise, send a cheque and I&#8217;ll cash it locally.</p>
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		<title>By: amphibious</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/#comment-157466</link>
		<dc:creator>amphibious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques,
My $50, sent on 22nd bounced back to me on 24th. Contacted my Credit Union which said the details BSB 805 050, a/c 6303 8723 are wrong!
I&#039;ll try again but failing that what ...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques,<br />
My $50, sent on 22nd bounced back to me on 24th. Contacted my Credit Union which said the details BSB 805 050, a/c 6303 8723 are wrong!<br />
I&#8217;ll try again but failing that what &#8230;?</p>
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