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	<title>Comments on: Missing Link &#8211; Saturday 28 July 2007</title>
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		<title>By: James Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-159008</link>
		<dc:creator>James Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bunyip was the original. I found it a tedious rather than an endearing eccentricity but, then again, nothing much was ever going to endear me to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bunyip was the original. I found it a tedious rather than an endearing eccentricity but, then again, nothing much was ever going to endear me to him.</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158697</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niall as Bannerman carried off the third person gag rather well, I thought. He couldn&#039;t do it forever, so he stopped. The comic effect was effective while it lasted, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niall as Bannerman carried off the third person gag rather well, I thought. He couldn&#8217;t do it forever, so he stopped. The comic effect was effective while it lasted, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158677</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He was an unlikely factional warrior for the forces of freedom but while holding down his day job running the state, thats precisely what he was.

And I cannot think of a higher tribute than that. We were lucky to have him.&quot;

The day job part is acceptable, but being a factional warrior for the forces of freedom (errr, Labor Unity) won&#039;t win him a Peace prize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He was an unlikely factional warrior for the forces of freedom but while holding down his day job running the state, thats precisely what he was.</p>
<p>And I cannot think of a higher tribute than that. We were lucky to have him.&#8221;</p>
<p>The day job part is acceptable, but being a factional warrior for the forces of freedom (errr, Labor Unity) won&#8217;t win him a Peace prize.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158645</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am impressed that someone who used to refer to themselves in the third person has anything to teach anyone on the subject of English :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am impressed that someone who used to refer to themselves in the third person has anything to teach anyone on the subject of English :)</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158405</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Niall Cook wants to pick a fight with Tim Blair&lt;/i&gt;

Merely trying to teach the lad the finer points of the English language. After all, he is supposed to be a journalist, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Niall Cook wants to pick a fight with Tim Blair</i></p>
<p>Merely trying to teach the lad the finer points of the English language. After all, he is supposed to be a journalist, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158182</link>
		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TIm

The Aussie count is the natural state more or less. I would have thought it was more, but anyways we&#039;re talking about excess deaths in Iraq. That&#039;s a pretty big nut to crack if you don&#039;t have at least some days of big conflagerations. The biggest day I ever heard was about 300 people dying of a large bomb blast, which was a few years ago. 

But 700 deaths a day on average as a run rate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TIm</p>
<p>The Aussie count is the natural state more or less. I would have thought it was more, but anyways we&#8217;re talking about excess deaths in Iraq. That&#8217;s a pretty big nut to crack if you don&#8217;t have at least some days of big conflagerations. The biggest day I ever heard was about 300 people dying of a large bomb blast, which was a few years ago. </p>
<p>But 700 deaths a day on average as a run rate?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Lambert</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158177</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC, about 500 people die every day in Australia.  But you never read of a death toll that high.  Not all or even most deaths are reported in the papers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC, about 500 people die every day in Australia.  But you never read of a death toll that high.  Not all or even most deaths are reported in the papers.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158175</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do princesses behave jc? I&#039;ve never met a princess. Do they always wear flouncy dresses and sleep on a bed with a pea under it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do princesses behave jc? I&#8217;ve never met a princess. Do they always wear flouncy dresses and sleep on a bed with a pea under it?</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158174</link>
		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cs

Stop behaving like a princess. All I&#039;m doing is giving you an honest opinion that this issue has no chance turning even one voter around. The only two people in the in the country- no the entire universe- who seem to think its mighty important is you and red Kezza. You&#039;re both on the outer field on this one.

I never suggested you were a yawm. I said the issue was.

I really think you&#039;re jumping a lot of hoops in lateral thinking here, CS. There are plenty of other reasons to vote out the Libs, but it&#039;s hardly going to be because you and kezza think Howard hasn&#039;t been a good economic manager because Costello is comparing his own performance to Howard&#039;s in the early 80&#039;s. That&#039;s a 500:1 shot CS. It has as much chance of resonating with the electorate as suggesting Julia Gillard is a closet libertarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cs</p>
<p>Stop behaving like a princess. All I&#8217;m doing is giving you an honest opinion that this issue has no chance turning even one voter around. The only two people in the in the country- no the entire universe- who seem to think its mighty important is you and red Kezza. You&#8217;re both on the outer field on this one.</p>
<p>I never suggested you were a yawm. I said the issue was.</p>
<p>I really think you&#8217;re jumping a lot of hoops in lateral thinking here, CS. There are plenty of other reasons to vote out the Libs, but it&#8217;s hardly going to be because you and kezza think Howard hasn&#8217;t been a good economic manager because Costello is comparing his own performance to Howard&#8217;s in the early 80&#8242;s. That&#8217;s a 500:1 shot CS. It has as much chance of resonating with the electorate as suggesting Julia Gillard is a closet libertarian.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158163</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to wake you up jc. Go back to sleep now, that&#039;s a good boy. Why, now I&#039;m yawning too. zzzzzzzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to wake you up jc. Go back to sleep now, that&#8217;s a good boy. Why, now I&#8217;m yawning too. zzzzzzzz</p>
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		<title>By: James Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158161</link>
		<dc:creator>James Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As you correctly say, Ken, in a postmodern world, [etc.]&quot;

Pretty funny, Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As you correctly say, Ken, in a postmodern world, [etc.]&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty funny, Mark.</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158158</link>
		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CS
This election thing isn&#039;t a rugby match, dude. you seem obsessed over this Howard thing as though it was. I watched the interviw with red kerry O the other night and Costello. It seems that the only two people who give a cracker over this Howard/Costello/who&#039;s the best treasurer is you and Kerry. It&#039;s a yawn.
No one really cares.
Here&#039;s a deal, find me two voters who are swayed by the fact that Costello thinks he&#039;s a better treasurer than Howard.

And no, I am not a howard supporter. I don&#039;t vote in elections because I don&#039;t believe in compulsary voting and stay away in protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CS<br />
This election thing isn&#8217;t a rugby match, dude. you seem obsessed over this Howard thing as though it was. I watched the interviw with red kerry O the other night and Costello. It seems that the only two people who give a cracker over this Howard/Costello/who&#8217;s the best treasurer is you and Kerry. It&#8217;s a yawn.<br />
No one really cares.<br />
Here&#8217;s a deal, find me two voters who are swayed by the fact that Costello thinks he&#8217;s a better treasurer than Howard.</p>
<p>And no, I am not a howard supporter. I don&#8217;t vote in elections because I don&#8217;t believe in compulsary voting and stay away in protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158152</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But unfortunately the rest of the company were far too dignified to join such a singalong! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But unfortunately the rest of the company were far too dignified to join such a singalong! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158151</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, now I recall that having looked to my right I immediately thought of a song and was trying to get some others singing along.  &quot;Swing low sweet chariot&quot; IIRC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, now I recall that having looked to my right I immediately thought of a song and was trying to get some others singing along.  &#8220;Swing low sweet chariot&#8221; IIRC.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158144</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you correctly say, Ken, in a postmodern world, all texts are open to multiple readings, but as far as the discredited concept of authorial intention goes, the answer would be no.

I&#039;m a bit of a regular at Hotel Bravo and I can report that she always dresses like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you correctly say, Ken, in a postmodern world, all texts are open to multiple readings, but as far as the discredited concept of authorial intention goes, the answer would be no.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit of a regular at Hotel Bravo and I can report that she always dresses like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158142</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Speaking of that waitress, was the &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.hart/lyricsh/hill.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Benny Hill-style pun&lt;/a&gt; in Mark B&#039;s post title completely unintentional?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of that waitress, was the <a href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.hart/lyricsh/hill.html">Benny Hill-style pun</a> in Mark B&#8217;s post title completely unintentional?</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158141</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, you mistake the joie de vivre in my writing, which is pronounced because I love to write, for the actual content, which in this case is sober. I would never write-off Howard, but I think that Costello may well have. For the Labor side of politics, I think that spells t-r-o-u-b-l-e ... unless the Old Queen is determined to hang on, in which case to the gallows he will go. No leader is electable, or re-electable, if he has the hellhounds in his own party on his trail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, you mistake the joie de vivre in my writing, which is pronounced because I love to write, for the actual content, which in this case is sober. I would never write-off Howard, but I think that Costello may well have. For the Labor side of politics, I think that spells t-r-o-u-b-l-e &#8230; unless the Old Queen is determined to hang on, in which case to the gallows he will go. No leader is electable, or re-electable, if he has the hellhounds in his own party on his trail.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158138</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes JC,

Perhaps I was just concentrating on keeping my eyes on the paella, about which, as Mark reports, I was lavish in my praise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes JC,</p>
<p>Perhaps I was just concentrating on keeping my eyes on the paella, about which, as Mark reports, I was lavish in my praise.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158130</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris

Sorry you&#039;re annoyed.  I guess it&#039;s just part of this postmodern world that there are multiple readings of any text.  Mine was that you were gleefully writing off Howard as a result inter alia of the ammunition Costello has given Labor to destroy his economic management credentials. Moreover, I&#039;ve just re-read your post in the light of your expressed objection, but it&#039;s still the sense I get from it.  Naturally, however, I accept that that wasn&#039;t your intention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris</p>
<p>Sorry you&#8217;re annoyed.  I guess it&#8217;s just part of this postmodern world that there are multiple readings of any text.  Mine was that you were gleefully writing off Howard as a result inter alia of the ammunition Costello has given Labor to destroy his economic management credentials. Moreover, I&#8217;ve just re-read your post in the light of your expressed objection, but it&#8217;s still the sense I get from it.  Naturally, however, I accept that that wasn&#8217;t your intention.</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158124</link>
		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim

What&#039;s the upgrade from Lancet. I read somewhere they&#039;re suggesting the total is about 1 million now since the start of the war.

If that&#039;s the case it means there has been just under 700 deaths a day in Iraq.

I have never read a toll that high on any day. Bit high don&#039;t you think? It does seem to be stretching things a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the upgrade from Lancet. I read somewhere they&#8217;re suggesting the total is about 1 million now since the start of the war.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case it means there has been just under 700 deaths a day in Iraq.</p>
<p>I have never read a toll that high on any day. Bit high don&#8217;t you think? It does seem to be stretching things a little.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Lambert</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158123</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missing Link says: &quot;[John Ray] also reports on a new paper that apparently finds that the 600,000 Iraqi deaths paper published in 2004 in Lancet is internally inconsistent.&quot;

The paper was first posted on my blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/07/david_kane_on_lancet_confidenc.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.   There has been lots of discussion in comments.

I also commented on Ray&#039;s post &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/07/lancet_debunking_cargo_cult.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  Also, the paper was about the &quot;100,000 excess Iraqi deaths&quot; paper published in the Lancet in 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missing Link says: &#8220;[John Ray] also reports on a new paper that apparently finds that the 600,000 Iraqi deaths paper published in 2004 in Lancet is internally inconsistent.&#8221;</p>
<p>The paper was first posted on my blog <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/07/david_kane_on_lancet_confidenc.php">here</a>.   There has been lots of discussion in comments.</p>
<p>I also commented on Ray&#8217;s post <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/07/lancet_debunking_cargo_cult.php">here</a>.  Also, the paper was about the &#8220;100,000 excess Iraqi deaths&#8221; paper published in the Lancet in 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158107</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes good work folks, except I must also correct &quot;gleefully&quot;. I would prefer Ratty to stay. As I said in my post, Costello would induce a honeymoon, tighten the race and at least save more government furniture (if, implicitly, he didn&#039;t win). Sorry to be a pedant, but I cannot help being annoyed at misrepresentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes good work folks, except I must also correct &#8220;gleefully&#8221;. I would prefer Ratty to stay. As I said in my post, Costello would induce a honeymoon, tighten the race and at least save more government furniture (if, implicitly, he didn&#8217;t win). Sorry to be a pedant, but I cannot help being annoyed at misrepresentation.</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158104</link>
		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>massive effort again, ken. good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>massive effort again, ken. good work!</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158103</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Christopher Sheil is gleefully writing Ratty off.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think so. I have suggested that the Federal Treasuer has written the Prime Minister off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Christopher Sheil is gleefully writing Ratty off.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so. I have suggested that the Federal Treasuer has written the Prime Minister off.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/28/3920/#comment-158102</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the waitress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the waitress.</p>
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