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	<title>Comments on: PMs Polling Perfidy Portends Plungerama</title>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161637</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 05:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strewth. I just got back and look what happened to the thread. 

To answer your question on #22 JC.  

&lt;em&gt;Why assume it was Howards people in the party that wanted him gone leaking the Report, Rex?&lt;/em&gt;

That wasn&#039;t my assumption.  I was just confounded as to why the 7:30 Report made the suggestion that it might have been a deliberate leak.  Robert in #17 explores my question quite well, and apparently comes to the conclusion that he doesn&#039;t get it either.

Ahh well some things are beyond the ken of we mere mortals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strewth. I just got back and look what happened to the thread. </p>
<p>To answer your question on #22 JC.  </p>
<p><em>Why assume it was Howards people in the party that wanted him gone leaking the Report, Rex?</em></p>
<p>That wasn&#8217;t my assumption.  I was just confounded as to why the 7:30 Report made the suggestion that it might have been a deliberate leak.  Robert in #17 explores my question quite well, and apparently comes to the conclusion that he doesn&#8217;t get it either.</p>
<p>Ahh well some things are beyond the ken of we mere mortals.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161476</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nabs

Here a good deal. You started this crap with the first nasty comment. I shouldna replied but i did. These guys don&#039;t want that sorta stuff going on here and it&#039;s fair enough. I always try and wear a tux when i&#039;m here.

Let&#039;&#039;s do this seeing we wrecked the thread (but seeing you started it).

I&#039;ll donate $200 bucks if you donate $300. The extra $100 is the starting-the dust-up-penalty.

That relieves a little of the grief you and I started. Munn&#039;s too mean to even ask. He&#039;ll bit my head off.

If you agree, we do it tonight and let leave the hostlity for the thread of doom where it should reside, in the bottom of the harbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nabs</p>
<p>Here a good deal. You started this crap with the first nasty comment. I shouldna replied but i did. These guys don&#8217;t want that sorta stuff going on here and it&#8217;s fair enough. I always try and wear a tux when i&#8217;m here.</p>
<p>Let&#8221;s do this seeing we wrecked the thread (but seeing you started it).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll donate $200 bucks if you donate $300. The extra $100 is the starting-the dust-up-penalty.</p>
<p>That relieves a little of the grief you and I started. Munn&#8217;s too mean to even ask. He&#8217;ll bit my head off.</p>
<p>If you agree, we do it tonight and let leave the hostlity for the thread of doom where it should reside, in the bottom of the harbor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161472</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it from me and sorry Jacques Sorry.</description>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161470</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nabs says:

&quot;I say I stomped off from Catallaxy vowing not to return cos I was in a snit over what I felt were inconsistent deletion policies.&quot;

Jacques, would you mind informing me that Nabs has forked over the cashola over the next few days. I guess with the addtional $1,000 you can buy an semi used Cray computer server that&#039;ll work faster than the shuttle in orbit..

I demand naming rights though. Please call it Nabs 1 painted in RED on the side of the plate, near the engines. But please stay well away from the O ring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nabs says:</p>
<p>&#8220;I say I stomped off from Catallaxy vowing not to return cos I was in a snit over what I felt were inconsistent deletion policies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jacques, would you mind informing me that Nabs has forked over the cashola over the next few days. I guess with the addtional $1,000 you can buy an semi used Cray computer server that&#8217;ll work faster than the shuttle in orbit..</p>
<p>I demand naming rights though. Please call it Nabs 1 painted in RED on the side of the plate, near the engines. But please stay well away from the O ring.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161469</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are doing a Birdy. Wriggling around your original premise. Can&#039;t say I&#039;m surprised.

As Jason has sorta confirmed - what happened was I got pissed off over deletion policies, or the lack of them, and so said goodbye and he responded by saying it would be no great loss if [I] didnt return.

Only in your fevered cranky little old mind could that be transmuted into &quot;...asked to leave&quot;, &quot;...didnt exactly leave of your own accord&quot; and &quot;dumped&quot;. Really joe, you argue like a girl. A hysterical teenage girl. 

&quot;Ill need your real name and the address too as a moniker isnt good enough. In other words I wanna know who Im dealing with.&quot;

OK, my real name is Dave Curry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you are doing a Birdy. Wriggling around your original premise. Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m surprised.</p>
<p>As Jason has sorta confirmed &#8211; what happened was I got pissed off over deletion policies, or the lack of them, and so said goodbye and he responded by saying it would be no great loss if [I] didnt return.</p>
<p>Only in your fevered cranky little old mind could that be transmuted into &#8220;&#8230;asked to leave&#8221;, &#8220;&#8230;didnt exactly leave of your own accord&#8221; and &#8220;dumped&#8221;. Really joe, you argue like a girl. A hysterical teenage girl. </p>
<p>&#8220;Ill need your real name and the address too as a moniker isnt good enough. In other words I wanna know who Im dealing with.&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, my real name is Dave Curry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161468</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One or two remarks is OK, JC, but these things get out of hand too fast. Best not to get involved, is my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One or two remarks is OK, JC, but these things get out of hand too fast. Best not to get involved, is my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161462</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry jacques, I&#039;d love to get back to the thread. It feels like two inmates escaped the asylum both still wearing their strait jackets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry jacques, I&#8217;d love to get back to the thread. It feels like two inmates escaped the asylum both still wearing their strait jackets.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161460</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nabs

Let&#039;s see you fill up the coffers with that $1,000 now boyo. You lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nabs</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see you fill up the coffers with that $1,000 now boyo. You lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;ll all kindly settle down, I won&#039;t have to lock the thread. 

Cheers,

The Oppressor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ll all kindly settle down, I won&#8217;t have to lock the thread. </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>The Oppressor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161457</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a head case convention. Nabs and mel. how funny.

Never death threats, munn. You&#039;re lying. 

You may want to explain to people you&#039;re own threats and why you were moderated out of existence the other day for referring to my family members in the most vile way, making racial comments about me.... calling me a wog etc.... simply because I disagreed with you extreme views. Pretty shioking form

Meanwhile my family member wouldn&#039;t know what a blog is.

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This what the site owner said to you Munn.

PS Im not wasting my time writing you anymore explanations. you should know this unwritten rule from precedent - this wasnt about the number of insults but what kinds of insults. Yours reveal a sick, misogynistic mind. 

If you dont like it, why dont you go back to the welcome mat rolled out for you by your fellow lefties at LP? Oh, wait  

Here&#039;s the link:

Munn has been moderated out of LP too for deranged behaviour.

http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3048#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a head case convention. Nabs and mel. how funny.</p>
<p>Never death threats, munn. You&#8217;re lying. </p>
<p>You may want to explain to people you&#8217;re own threats and why you were moderated out of existence the other day for referring to my family members in the most vile way, making racial comments about me&#8230;. calling me a wog etc&#8230;. simply because I disagreed with you extreme views. Pretty shioking form</p>
<p>Meanwhile my family member wouldn&#8217;t know what a blog is.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>This what the site owner said to you Munn.</p>
<p>PS Im not wasting my time writing you anymore explanations. you should know this unwritten rule from precedent &#8211; this wasnt about the number of insults but what kinds of insults. Yours reveal a sick, misogynistic mind. </p>
<p>If you dont like it, why dont you go back to the welcome mat rolled out for you by your fellow lefties at LP? Oh, wait  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p>Munn has been moderated out of LP too for deranged behaviour.</p>
<p><a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3048#comments">http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3048#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161450</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Really? Im not the one who exploded into hundreds of words of unprovable (sic) allegations in response to a casual jab delivered in passing.&quot;

Yea right. This is just a mark of a friendly comment, you ass. Notice you&#039;re using what you think is my real name while you&#039;re all monikered up. Nice breeding by the way!


&quot;Somethings in the air alright and its much more than just an analogy for joe cambrias behaviour online.&quot;


Only thing is, dumphy I wasn&#039;t badly behaved here. You were. Until you got in the act and wrecked the thread everyone was doing fine. Take a look


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Yes, Ive noticed before that when youre cornered into providing actual proof of your smears, it all suddenly becomes too hard.


It&#039;s not a smear. It&#039;s the truth and its funny as all hell you&#039;re trying to deny it.

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Love how your claim has morphed from Told politely to leave to dumped to told that it would be a good thing for you not to return.

Pretty much mean the same thing seeing you didn&#039;t exactly leave of your own accord.

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&quot;Even though you have form when it comes to welshing on bets, Ill bite.&quot;

Yea. Thanks.
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&quot;I say I stomped off from Catallaxy vowing not to return cos I was in a snit over what I felt were inconsistent deletion policies.&quot;

No. The site owner is good guy. You were asked to leave because you are mostly vapid, abusive, hostile and posting private information about people. Pretty much like you doing here. The owner almost never deletes comments. You&#039;re making a shameful and dishonest assertion.

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&quot;You say I was asked to leave/dumped because of my appalling behaviour.&quot;

 Yea. It was pretty bad and the owner suggested it would be a good thing if you never returned. Basically for the reasons I outlined.


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Not sure if the files can be retrieved. You obviously had a look too, which is why you&#039;re so cocky. I went back earlier to take a look and the comment boxes were closed for that period. You know that obviously, hence the spring in your step.

Here&#039;s the deal dumphy. Not your conditions. Mine, ok.

Let&#039;s take it from the site owners word, as he is an honest broker. If he says you were told it was better you didn&#039;t come back I win. He says you left entirely of your own you do.


By the way, Ill do what I like with the winnings, as I hardly need you to tell me anything. And the other thing, Ill need your real name and the address too as a moniker isnt good enough. In other words I wanna know who Im dealing with. You can send that to this site owner and he can forward it to me. He knows who I am. Its about trust and Im sorry but I wouldn&#039;t for you a second after the stuff you pulled at Cat. 


Now go make the donations and stop being a big talker. They need the money to set up a better server. Dont be so cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Really? Im not the one who exploded into hundreds of words of unprovable (sic) allegations in response to a casual jab delivered in passing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yea right. This is just a mark of a friendly comment, you ass. Notice you&#8217;re using what you think is my real name while you&#8217;re all monikered up. Nice breeding by the way!</p>
<p>&#8220;Somethings in the air alright and its much more than just an analogy for joe cambrias behaviour online.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only thing is, dumphy I wasn&#8217;t badly behaved here. You were. Until you got in the act and wrecked the thread everyone was doing fine. Take a look</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Yes, Ive noticed before that when youre cornered into providing actual proof of your smears, it all suddenly becomes too hard.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a smear. It&#8217;s the truth and its funny as all hell you&#8217;re trying to deny it.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Love how your claim has morphed from Told politely to leave to dumped to told that it would be a good thing for you not to return.</p>
<p>Pretty much mean the same thing seeing you didn&#8217;t exactly leave of your own accord.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;Even though you have form when it comes to welshing on bets, Ill bite.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yea. Thanks.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;I say I stomped off from Catallaxy vowing not to return cos I was in a snit over what I felt were inconsistent deletion policies.&#8221;</p>
<p>No. The site owner is good guy. You were asked to leave because you are mostly vapid, abusive, hostile and posting private information about people. Pretty much like you doing here. The owner almost never deletes comments. You&#8217;re making a shameful and dishonest assertion.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;You say I was asked to leave/dumped because of my appalling behaviour.&#8221;</p>
<p> Yea. It was pretty bad and the owner suggested it would be a good thing if you never returned. Basically for the reasons I outlined.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Not sure if the files can be retrieved. You obviously had a look too, which is why you&#8217;re so cocky. I went back earlier to take a look and the comment boxes were closed for that period. You know that obviously, hence the spring in your step.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the deal dumphy. Not your conditions. Mine, ok.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take it from the site owners word, as he is an honest broker. If he says you were told it was better you didn&#8217;t come back I win. He says you left entirely of your own you do.</p>
<p>By the way, Ill do what I like with the winnings, as I hardly need you to tell me anything. And the other thing, Ill need your real name and the address too as a moniker isnt good enough. In other words I wanna know who Im dealing with. You can send that to this site owner and he can forward it to me. He knows who I am. Its about trust and Im sorry but I wouldn&#8217;t for you a second after the stuff you pulled at Cat. </p>
<p>Now go make the donations and stop being a big talker. They need the money to set up a better server. Dont be so cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Soon</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161444</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Soon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm not exactly sure how this thread descended into a morass of navel gazing. But just to clarify matters, no one has ever been banned on the Cat, only put into moderation, sometimes temporarily. And while I didn&#039;t ban Nabs I did lose my temper at him after he started whinging over deletion policies and tell him that it would be no great loss if he didn&#039;t return. So how you interpret that is up to youse people.  

I don&#039;t know how this is going to be settled though other than taking my testimony for this since Catallaxy&#039;s servers have gone down more times than an oral fetishist since Nabs exited and Nab&#039;s contributions and the resulting thread are probably all wiped out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm not exactly sure how this thread descended into a morass of navel gazing. But just to clarify matters, no one has ever been banned on the Cat, only put into moderation, sometimes temporarily. And while I didn&#8217;t ban Nabs I did lose my temper at him after he started whinging over deletion policies and tell him that it would be no great loss if he didn&#8217;t return. So how you interpret that is up to youse people.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how this is going to be settled though other than taking my testimony for this since Catallaxy&#8217;s servers have gone down more times than an oral fetishist since Nabs exited and Nab&#8217;s contributions and the resulting thread are probably all wiped out.</p>
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		<title>By: melaleuca</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161438</link>
		<dc:creator>melaleuca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not a bona fide member of Ozblogistan until you&#039;ve had a death threat or some other form of intimidation from Stinky Joe. He only stopped spamming my site with death threats after I threatened him with legal action.

I note Left Writes also outed him for death threats last year.

And to think he is the number one right-wing commenter on a blog that laments the &quot;adversarial culture&quot; of the Left.

HEHEHEHEHE!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not a bona fide member of Ozblogistan until you&#8217;ve had a death threat or some other form of intimidation from Stinky Joe. He only stopped spamming my site with death threats after I threatened him with legal action.</p>
<p>I note Left Writes also outed him for death threats last year.</p>
<p>And to think he is the number one right-wing commenter on a blog that laments the &#8220;adversarial culture&#8221; of the Left.</p>
<p>HEHEHEHEHE!!</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Youre creating a spectacle of yourself.&quot;

Really? I&#039;m not the one who exploded into hundreds of words of unprovable allegations in response to a casual jab delivered in passing.

&quot;I have neither the interest or the inclination to go look for it.&quot;
Yes, I&#039;ve noticed before that when you&#039;re cornered into providing actual proof of your smears, it all suddenly becomes too hard.

&quot;Lets bet even money $1,000 that were told that it would be a good thing for you not to return.&quot;

Love how your claim has morphed from &quot;Told politely to leave&quot; to &quot;dumped&quot; to &quot;told that it would be a good thing for you not to return.&quot;

Even though you have form when it comes to welshing on bets, I&#039;ll bite.

Here&#039;s the conditions spelt out clearly so you can&#039;t do a Birdy.

- I say I stomped off from Catallaxy vowing not to return &#039;cos I was in a snit over what I felt were inconsistent deletion policies.

- You say I was asked to leave/dumped because of my appalling behaviour.

- The bet to be settled by the actual exchange in question retrieved from the Catallaxy archives (I think it was around the second week in October 2006).

- The loser donates $1000 to the Club Troppo server drive in the name of the winner.

GO!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Youre creating a spectacle of yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? I&#8217;m not the one who exploded into hundreds of words of unprovable allegations in response to a casual jab delivered in passing.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have neither the interest or the inclination to go look for it.&#8221;<br />
Yes, I&#8217;ve noticed before that when you&#8217;re cornered into providing actual proof of your smears, it all suddenly becomes too hard.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lets bet even money $1,000 that were told that it would be a good thing for you not to return.&#8221;</p>
<p>Love how your claim has morphed from &#8220;Told politely to leave&#8221; to &#8220;dumped&#8221; to &#8220;told that it would be a good thing for you not to return.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even though you have form when it comes to welshing on bets, I&#8217;ll bite.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the conditions spelt out clearly so you can&#8217;t do a Birdy.</p>
<p>- I say I stomped off from Catallaxy vowing not to return &#8216;cos I was in a snit over what I felt were inconsistent deletion policies.</p>
<p>- You say I was asked to leave/dumped because of my appalling behaviour.</p>
<p>- The bet to be settled by the actual exchange in question retrieved from the Catallaxy archives (I think it was around the second week in October 2006).</p>
<p>- The loser donates $1000 to the Club Troppo server drive in the name of the winner.</p>
<p>GO!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161363</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nabs

Please... stick to the thread. You&#039;re creating a spectacle of yourself.

I have neither the interest or the inclination to &quot;go look for it&quot;. As I said, go over there and ask if you were dumped. It was possibly lost in all the server problems they had and now your relying on it. We lost the thread of Doom that way and you were asked to leave around that time. Your call. 

Or here&#039;s a deal. Let&#039;s bet even money $1,000 that were told that it would be a good thing for you not to return. We&#039;ll ask the site owner if that was case. 

Now go make the donation as penance for this most vapid (again) argument. Follow the link I left for you and do the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nabs</p>
<p>Please&#8230; stick to the thread. You&#8217;re creating a spectacle of yourself.</p>
<p>I have neither the interest or the inclination to &#8220;go look for it&#8221;. As I said, go over there and ask if you were dumped. It was possibly lost in all the server problems they had and now your relying on it. We lost the thread of Doom that way and you were asked to leave around that time. Your call. </p>
<p>Or here&#8217;s a deal. Let&#8217;s bet even money $1,000 that were told that it would be a good thing for you not to return. We&#8217;ll ask the site owner if that was case. </p>
<p>Now go make the donation as penance for this most vapid (again) argument. Follow the link I left for you and do the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161359</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...because you possibly asked the site owner to remove it.&quot;

Oh jeez joe, that&#039;s pathetic even by your usual standards.I thought you had &lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/26/walshies-warriors-declare-flat-earth-hour/#comment-350676&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;proof&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot; just found you standards quite appalling by hiding behind a moniker&quot;

You mean like Dave Curry, S Brid, pessimist ugly &amp; single and anonymous righty? 

&quot;was a Ying and yang thang 
Once again I bet your ability to find what I actually said will mysteriously desert you. Maybe I asked for that to be wiped too?

This whole reality-based just ain&#039;t working out for you is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;because you possibly asked the site owner to remove it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh jeez joe, that&#8217;s pathetic even by your usual standards.I thought you had <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/26/walshies-warriors-declare-flat-earth-hour/#comment-350676">proof</a>.</p>
<p>&#8221; just found you standards quite appalling by hiding behind a moniker&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean like Dave Curry, S Brid, pessimist ugly &amp; single and anonymous righty? </p>
<p>&#8220;was a Ying and yang thang<br />
Once again I bet your ability to find what I actually said will mysteriously desert you. Maybe I asked for that to be wiped too?</p>
<p>This whole reality-based just ain&#8217;t working out for you is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161348</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yet if I asked you to link to that statement, your ability to use google would mysteriously vanish again wouldnt it?&quot;


Yes, because you possibly asked the site owner to remove it. As I said, go to the open thread there and ask the question. Or better still ask if you were dumped from the site.

 He did the right thing by the way. Youre not missed.

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&quot;And people arent asked to leave threads there. Theyre either (extremely rarely) banned or put in moderation like your bumchum Birdy.&quot;

True, which is why I said it was a massive achievement on your part. You can&#039;t be both vapid and abusive while expecting people not to see through that and show endless tolerance. On merits I think it has worked out well.

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&quot;Actually you placed a bounty on Fyodor and I because our mockery had driven you into a wild fury and no one was responding to Birdy and yours frequent calls to ban people getting the better of you.&quot;

Not really. I just found you standards quite appalling by hiding behind a moniker. You were sending everyone terminally insane with vapid comments such as suggesting that labor market reform &quot;was a Ying and yang thang&quot;  (some economic theory!). You then got upset when people suggested you ought to read an introduction to economics. You made everyone hostile with your abuse, nabs, so don&#039;t blame me you got turfed. 

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&quot;Also you are aware that youre responding at one point in your 3.02pm comment to one of your own statements from your 1.43 am comment, arent you?&quot;

Yes. thanks. Just reaffirming what I said earlier.


Now,  you ought to make a donation for being so annoying and irrelevant to the thread.

Here&#039;s the link: 


http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/

So lets get back to the thread.


By the way your suggestion :

&quot;We have Australias largest circulation newspaper, owned by one of the most shrewd and ruthless media barons ever,coming out with a headline&quot;.....

Is vapid (as usual). Murdoch would have had as much input to the piece as you do in an AA meeting. He has well qualified editors that read the tealeaves and I&#039;m sure his successful editor would be more than annoyed with that sort of overbearing input. I think Rupert is a little busy with other things such as the WSJ for the moment. 

As vapid as ever, hey.


Now please go donate, big spender. It&#039;s a good site and Ken is a decent guy who deserves that little support especially after the mess you have created again.


By the way feel free to carry out this discussion over at Cat. Which is where it all began and should reside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yet if I asked you to link to that statement, your ability to use google would mysteriously vanish again wouldnt it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, because you possibly asked the site owner to remove it. As I said, go to the open thread there and ask the question. Or better still ask if you were dumped from the site.</p>
<p> He did the right thing by the way. Youre not missed.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>&#8220;And people arent asked to leave threads there. Theyre either (extremely rarely) banned or put in moderation like your bumchum Birdy.&#8221;</p>
<p>True, which is why I said it was a massive achievement on your part. You can&#8217;t be both vapid and abusive while expecting people not to see through that and show endless tolerance. On merits I think it has worked out well.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>&#8220;Actually you placed a bounty on Fyodor and I because our mockery had driven you into a wild fury and no one was responding to Birdy and yours frequent calls to ban people getting the better of you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really. I just found you standards quite appalling by hiding behind a moniker. You were sending everyone terminally insane with vapid comments such as suggesting that labor market reform &#8220;was a Ying and yang thang&#8221;  (some economic theory!). You then got upset when people suggested you ought to read an introduction to economics. You made everyone hostile with your abuse, nabs, so don&#8217;t blame me you got turfed. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8220;Also you are aware that youre responding at one point in your 3.02pm comment to one of your own statements from your 1.43 am comment, arent you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. thanks. Just reaffirming what I said earlier.</p>
<p>Now,  you ought to make a donation for being so annoying and irrelevant to the thread.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link: </p>
<p><a href="http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/">http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/07/20/holding-out-the-hat/</a></p>
<p>So lets get back to the thread.</p>
<p>By the way your suggestion :</p>
<p>&#8220;We have Australias largest circulation newspaper, owned by one of the most shrewd and ruthless media barons ever,coming out with a headline&#8221;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Is vapid (as usual). Murdoch would have had as much input to the piece as you do in an AA meeting. He has well qualified editors that read the tealeaves and I&#8217;m sure his successful editor would be more than annoyed with that sort of overbearing input. I think Rupert is a little busy with other things such as the WSJ for the moment. </p>
<p>As vapid as ever, hey.</p>
<p>Now please go donate, big spender. It&#8217;s a good site and Ken is a decent guy who deserves that little support especially after the mess you have created again.</p>
<p>By the way feel free to carry out this discussion over at Cat. Which is where it all began and should reside.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161341</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the owner of the site asked you politely not to return&quot;

Yet if I asked you to link to that statement, your ability to use google would mysteriously vanish again wouldn&#039;t it?

And people aren&#039;t asked to leave threads there. They&#039;re either (extremely rarely) banned or put in moderation like your bumchum Birdy.

Actually you placed a bounty on Fyodor and I because our mockery had driven you into a wild fury and no one was responding to Birdy and yours frequent calls to ban people getting the better of you.

Also you are aware that you&#039;re responding at one point in your 3.02pm comment to one of your own statements from your 1.43 am comment, aren&#039;t you?

Old, tricky and losing it all right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the owner of the site asked you politely not to return&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet if I asked you to link to that statement, your ability to use google would mysteriously vanish again wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>And people aren&#8217;t asked to leave threads there. They&#8217;re either (extremely rarely) banned or put in moderation like your bumchum Birdy.</p>
<p>Actually you placed a bounty on Fyodor and I because our mockery had driven you into a wild fury and no one was responding to Birdy and yours frequent calls to ban people getting the better of you.</p>
<p>Also you are aware that you&#8217;re responding at one point in your 3.02pm comment to one of your own statements from your 1.43 am comment, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Old, tricky and losing it all right.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161316</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161316</guid>
		<description>&quot;What animosity JC? Just a simple statement of fact. You are old, tricky and losing it.&quot;


That one is getting a little old especially coming for a depressed, lonely soul like you.
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Oh, you cant because you were dumped you from Catallaxy for behaving exactly the way you are here  playing the commenter rather than the thread topic and hiding behind a moniker trying to expose others.

Ummm.... the owner of the site asked you politely not to return because you were always attacking other commenters in the same fashion that you&#039;re doing right here and the little you contributed was just vapid nonsense. In other words he couldn&#039;t stand you despite site&#039;s very liberal comments policy. 


I would treat that as an achievement, Nabs. You have to be very special getting dumped from the CaT considering it&#039;s virtually open comments policy. You&#039;re a genius.

He asked you not to return, so stop the lying. Maybe you ought to go the sites open thread section and ask if it is true. Go on, I dare you.

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Amusing how you&#039;re attacking others for having a moniker. You are such a notorious coward, nabakov.


&quot;and it was you who was offering bribes for my personal details.&quot;

Absolutely I did, after the things you have pulled and said about other people while hiding behind your pathetic moniker. That&#039;s right, I offered a $7,000 reward (that was going to be raised to $10,000 but you were asked to leave first) to anyone who would expose you for doing the sorts of things you have just done on this thread. I have no fear of doing it again, turkey. Don&#039;t think for a moment I would be embarrassed in fact it would be kind of fun to see you squirm, as you would be getting your just deserts.

Any more irrelevant attacks.... on a reasonable thread that was going well.


Rex:

I&#039;m sorry, but I will respond to disturbed attacks like that. You can leave the comments or delete them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What animosity JC? Just a simple statement of fact. You are old, tricky and losing it.&#8221;</p>
<p>That one is getting a little old especially coming for a depressed, lonely soul like you.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Oh, you cant because you were dumped you from Catallaxy for behaving exactly the way you are here  playing the commenter rather than the thread topic and hiding behind a moniker trying to expose others.</p>
<p>Ummm&#8230;. the owner of the site asked you politely not to return because you were always attacking other commenters in the same fashion that you&#8217;re doing right here and the little you contributed was just vapid nonsense. In other words he couldn&#8217;t stand you despite site&#8217;s very liberal comments policy. </p>
<p>I would treat that as an achievement, Nabs. You have to be very special getting dumped from the CaT considering it&#8217;s virtually open comments policy. You&#8217;re a genius.</p>
<p>He asked you not to return, so stop the lying. Maybe you ought to go the sites open thread section and ask if it is true. Go on, I dare you.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Amusing how you&#8217;re attacking others for having a moniker. You are such a notorious coward, nabakov.</p>
<p>&#8220;and it was you who was offering bribes for my personal details.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely I did, after the things you have pulled and said about other people while hiding behind your pathetic moniker. That&#8217;s right, I offered a $7,000 reward (that was going to be raised to $10,000 but you were asked to leave first) to anyone who would expose you for doing the sorts of things you have just done on this thread. I have no fear of doing it again, turkey. Don&#8217;t think for a moment I would be embarrassed in fact it would be kind of fun to see you squirm, as you would be getting your just deserts.</p>
<p>Any more irrelevant attacks&#8230;. on a reasonable thread that was going well.</p>
<p>Rex:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I will respond to disturbed attacks like that. You can leave the comments or delete them.</p>
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		<title>By: mangoman</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161313</link>
		<dc:creator>mangoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex JC it is not all that unusual this far out from an election to have a seat by seat analysis such as that provided by the betting markets differ from the overall poll figures. Those standing against sitting members often have a great deal of difficulty getting much traction until the campaign proper gets going - unless they are high profile people such as Maxine McKew.

Howard is trying to set himself up as a tough little bloke battling the odds. He needs a some baddies to beat and he has picked out the states for that task. He also needs to look a bit knocked about and the Murdoch press are helping with that at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex JC it is not all that unusual this far out from an election to have a seat by seat analysis such as that provided by the betting markets differ from the overall poll figures. Those standing against sitting members often have a great deal of difficulty getting much traction until the campaign proper gets going &#8211; unless they are high profile people such as Maxine McKew.</p>
<p>Howard is trying to set himself up as a tough little bloke battling the odds. He needs a some baddies to beat and he has picked out the states for that task. He also needs to look a bit knocked about and the Murdoch press are helping with that at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161302</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161302</guid>
		<description>What animosity JC? Just a simple statement of fact. You are old, tricky and losing it.

Take for example:

&quot;Oh, you cant because you were dumped you from Catallaxy for behaving exactly the way you are here  playing the commenter rather than the thread topic and hiding behind a moniker trying to expose others.&quot;

which is quite the opposite of the truth. I walked away from Catallaxy, you&#039;re notorious for personal attacks to the point of emailing abuse to people off blog threads, you&#039;ve often hidden behind a wide range of monickers and sock puppets haven&#039;t you, &#039;Dave Curry, &#039;S Brid, &#039;pessimist&#039; &#039;ugly &amp; single&#039; and &#039;anonymous righty&#039;? and it was you who was offering bribes for my personal details. 

OK folks, we return you to your scheduled discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What animosity JC? Just a simple statement of fact. You are old, tricky and losing it.</p>
<p>Take for example:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, you cant because you were dumped you from Catallaxy for behaving exactly the way you are here  playing the commenter rather than the thread topic and hiding behind a moniker trying to expose others.&#8221;</p>
<p>which is quite the opposite of the truth. I walked away from Catallaxy, you&#8217;re notorious for personal attacks to the point of emailing abuse to people off blog threads, you&#8217;ve often hidden behind a wide range of monickers and sock puppets haven&#8217;t you, &#8216;Dave Curry, &#8216;S Brid, &#8216;pessimist&#8217; &#8216;ugly &amp; single&#8217; and &#8216;anonymous righty&#8217;? and it was you who was offering bribes for my personal details. </p>
<p>OK folks, we return you to your scheduled discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Bring Back CL's blog</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161238</link>
		<dc:creator>Bring Back CL's blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn Stevens disagrees with you JC over the state of State balance sheets.

On the leak it could only have come from liberal state bureaucrats who get this polling. I suspect the mad &#039;right wing&#039; nuts in NSW.

Howard is simply Whitlam in good economic times. Centralist, big spender and hater of State governments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Stevens disagrees with you JC over the state of State balance sheets.</p>
<p>On the leak it could only have come from liberal state bureaucrats who get this polling. I suspect the mad &#8216;right wing&#8217; nuts in NSW.</p>
<p>Howard is simply Whitlam in good economic times. Centralist, big spender and hater of State governments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161155</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My behavior, Nabakov.. Really? It would really be great if you kept your animosity confined to those blogs where they originate.

 Oh, you can&#039;t because you were dumped you from Catallaxy for behaving exactly the way you are here  playing the commenter rather than the thread topic and hiding behind a moniker trying to expose others. It was described as cowardly more than a few times- recall?

Its not really a thread or a comment requiring that sort of hostility so maybe you ought to rethink your approach or double the dose of meds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My behavior, Nabakov.. Really? It would really be great if you kept your animosity confined to those blogs where they originate.</p>
<p> Oh, you can&#8217;t because you were dumped you from Catallaxy for behaving exactly the way you are here  playing the commenter rather than the thread topic and hiding behind a moniker trying to expose others. It was described as cowardly more than a few times- recall?</p>
<p>Its not really a thread or a comment requiring that sort of hostility so maybe you ought to rethink your approach or double the dose of meds.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161144</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have Australia&#039;s largest circulation newspaper, owned by one of the most shrewd and ruthless media barons ever,coming out with a headline
&quot;Old, Tricky and Losing&quot;. 

Something&#039;s in the air alright and it&#039;s much more than just an analogy for joe cambria&#039;s behaviour online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have Australia&#8217;s largest circulation newspaper, owned by one of the most shrewd and ruthless media barons ever,coming out with a headline<br />
&#8220;Old, Tricky and Losing&#8221;. </p>
<p>Something&#8217;s in the air alright and it&#8217;s much more than just an analogy for joe cambria&#8217;s behaviour online.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/06/pm%e2%80%99s-polling-perfidy-portends-plungerama/#comment-161133</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex

There is something real strange happening in the betting markets. The labor bet has moved in while obviously the libs are moving out.

However the seat by seat betting has the Libs neck and neck... actually the libs are ahead by 2 seats in one bet. Maybe the swing isn&#039;t as uniform as what we all think.

Quite weird.

Seat by seat betting market predictions:

    Portlandbet: Coalition 75; Labor 73; Independent 2
    Sportingbet: Coalition 73; Labor 75; Independent 2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex</p>
<p>There is something real strange happening in the betting markets. The labor bet has moved in while obviously the libs are moving out.</p>
<p>However the seat by seat betting has the Libs neck and neck&#8230; actually the libs are ahead by 2 seats in one bet. Maybe the swing isn&#8217;t as uniform as what we all think.</p>
<p>Quite weird.</p>
<p>Seat by seat betting market predictions:</p>
<p>    Portlandbet: Coalition 75; Labor 73; Independent 2<br />
    Sportingbet: Coalition 73; Labor 75; Independent 2</p>
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