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		<title>By: Weekly Update 23rd August &#124; Dipping into the Blogpond</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-170528</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Update 23rd August &#124; Dipping into the Blogpond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;shady&#8221; place, pulled off the site. And all on his birthday. Clubtroppo have the &#8220;offending&#8221; post, and Cameron Reilly an interesting interview with Jack. Hat tip - Freedom to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;shady&#8221; place, pulled off the site. And all on his birthday. Clubtroppo have the &#8220;offending&#8221; post, and Cameron Reilly an interesting interview with Jack. Hat tip &#8211; Freedom to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: amphibious</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-169329</link>
		<dc:creator>amphibious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d not heard of nor read him prior to this and feel no loss. this was little different from the Eskimo nell stuff passed around the boys&#039; toilets in primary school, circa 1960. No loss unless he ever did anything else with, you know, wit, insight, that sorta stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d not heard of nor read him prior to this and feel no loss. this was little different from the Eskimo nell stuff passed around the boys&#8217; toilets in primary school, circa 1960. No loss unless he ever did anything else with, you know, wit, insight, that sorta stuff</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-168653</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty crass stuff. Befitting of a blogger, but not a journalist. I wouldn&#039;t have called it a sacking offence though, just the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty crass stuff. Befitting of a blogger, but not a journalist. I wouldn&#8217;t have called it a sacking offence though, just the same.</p>
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		<title>By: James Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-168459</link>
		<dc:creator>James Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say I agree on the quality of the writing. It&#039;s full of awkward constructions (unwisely opting the conditional tense most of the time, but failing to stick to it) and cheap images (&#039;perhaps blonde, perhaps brunette&#039; -- good grief!), and contains, as usual, the odd grinding syntactical solecism (&#039;Being that it was New York, September 2003, Id say...&#039;).

And it doesn&#039;t ring tue either. For all of Rudd&#039;s faults I suspect he is the kind of person who, like me, would find a strip act a turn off -- tacky and embarrassing rather than erotic. So why was he there? Well, who hasn&#039;t had the experience of being in a strange city and at the mercy of a forceful host who unexpectedly turns out to be an ockerish boofhead, and drags you along to some place you wouldn&#039;t have otherwise chosen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I agree on the quality of the writing. It&#8217;s full of awkward constructions (unwisely opting the conditional tense most of the time, but failing to stick to it) and cheap images (&#8216;perhaps blonde, perhaps brunette&#8217; &#8212; good grief!), and contains, as usual, the odd grinding syntactical solecism (&#8216;Being that it was New York, September 2003, Id say&#8230;&#8217;).</p>
<p>And it doesn&#8217;t ring tue either. For all of Rudd&#8217;s faults I suspect he is the kind of person who, like me, would find a strip act a turn off &#8212; tacky and embarrassing rather than erotic. So why was he there? Well, who hasn&#8217;t had the experience of being in a strange city and at the mercy of a forceful host who unexpectedly turns out to be an ockerish boofhead, and drags you along to some place you wouldn&#8217;t have otherwise chosen?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-168261</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite like &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/mattprice/index.php/theaustralian/comments/the_more_you_clap_the_more_ill_forget/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;today&#039;s &quot;Sketch&quot; in the Australian&lt;/a&gt;. Favourite bit:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Lets definitely not discuss Kevin Rudd and strippers because, as everybody knows by now, its not a story.

The Australians blogging system broke down yesterday under the volume of people from around the world whove tried to contact us to tell us nobody is interested in whether or not the alternative PM visited a strip joint four years ago.

Blanket coverage on television confirmed The Sketchs inkling that this was a non-story, not least because most talkback callers on radio thought so too.
True, newspapers across four continents carried the non-story and every website in the land has a chat-room discussion or a poll on whether this sort of behaviour is acceptable for somebody who wants to run the country.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like <a href="http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/mattprice/index.php/theaustralian/comments/the_more_you_clap_the_more_ill_forget/">today&#8217;s &#8220;Sketch&#8221; in the Australian</a>. Favourite bit:</p>
<blockquote><p>Lets definitely not discuss Kevin Rudd and strippers because, as everybody knows by now, its not a story.</p>
<p>The Australians blogging system broke down yesterday under the volume of people from around the world whove tried to contact us to tell us nobody is interested in whether or not the alternative PM visited a strip joint four years ago.</p>
<p>Blanket coverage on television confirmed The Sketchs inkling that this was a non-story, not least because most talkback callers on radio thought so too.<br />
True, newspapers across four continents carried the non-story and every website in the land has a chat-room discussion or a poll on whether this sort of behaviour is acceptable for somebody who wants to run the country.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-168228</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;sacking him for that cheeky bit of satire is a bit of an overreaction&lt;/i&gt;

The boss of Fairfax, David Kirk, is a former All Black Captain. New Zealanders are notoriously strait-laced. There ought to be a law against non-nationals running Australian newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>sacking him for that cheeky bit of satire is a bit of an overreaction</i></p>
<p>The boss of Fairfax, David Kirk, is a former All Black Captain. New Zealanders are notoriously strait-laced. There ought to be a law against non-nationals running Australian newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: Gianna</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-168202</link>
		<dc:creator>Gianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i reckon it&#039;s backfiring cos it just sexes Rudd up. as Beattie said, now he&#039;s got blood in his veins. no more Mr Nerd Guy.
as for Jack Marx - sacking him for that cheeky bit of satire is a bit of an overreaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i reckon it&#8217;s backfiring cos it just sexes Rudd up. as Beattie said, now he&#8217;s got blood in his veins. no more Mr Nerd Guy.<br />
as for Jack Marx &#8211; sacking him for that cheeky bit of satire is a bit of an overreaction.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-168127</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real problem is, there is no insight.  If Marx had thrown a few jokes in like &quot;I&#039;ll see you later, out the back door&quot; or something it would have at least been funny.  Rudd and strip club are so incongruous that you&#039;d think there would be plenty of humour to mine, but the faux seriousness of the weakest allegations of impropriety since Downer pulled on the stockings has gone past ridiculous and into the seriously strange.

Really, the poison dwarf pulling up other people about their behaviour?

Has Howard really been cleaning Pru Goward&#039;s pipes?  That&#039;s what I&#039;d really like to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem is, there is no insight.  If Marx had thrown a few jokes in like &#8220;I&#8217;ll see you later, out the back door&#8221; or something it would have at least been funny.  Rudd and strip club are so incongruous that you&#8217;d think there would be plenty of humour to mine, but the faux seriousness of the weakest allegations of impropriety since Downer pulled on the stockings has gone past ridiculous and into the seriously strange.</p>
<p>Really, the poison dwarf pulling up other people about their behaviour?</p>
<p>Has Howard really been cleaning Pru Goward&#8217;s pipes?  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;d really like to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-168123</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, he was actively destroying the SMH&#039;s livelihood - is leaks from sympathetic labor people. Of course he was sacked!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it, he was actively destroying the SMH&#8217;s livelihood &#8211; is leaks from sympathetic labor people. Of course he was sacked!</p>
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		<title>By: harry clarke</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-168041</link>
		<dc:creator>harry clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The piece by Jack Marx is entertaining fiction that is probably close to being non-fiction. What&#039;s wrong with some insightful humour?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The piece by Jack Marx is entertaining fiction that is probably close to being non-fiction. What&#8217;s wrong with some insightful humour?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Green</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-168040</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The editors noted he was a poser who was no longer shifting the Smirnoff Ice he was paid to, and this simply gave an excuse to break the contract.
No great loss, I&#039;m no fan of Gonzo, but this is to Gonzo what Puddle of Mudd is to grunge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The editors noted he was a poser who was no longer shifting the Smirnoff Ice he was paid to, and this simply gave an excuse to break the contract.<br />
No great loss, I&#8217;m no fan of Gonzo, but this is to Gonzo what Puddle of Mudd is to grunge.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-167909</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was sacked for that?  No way.   There&#039;s more to this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was sacked for that?  No way.   There&#8217;s more to this story.</p>
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		<title>By: cs</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-167803</link>
		<dc:creator>cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it is a well written piece, Ken. Yet, as Graham says, it amounts to nothing but intimate self-projection, appropriate, perhaps, for &lt;i&gt;Penthouse Letters&lt;/i&gt;, not a newspaper that is already struggling to be taken seriously, especially in the rugby dept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it is a well written piece, Ken. Yet, as Graham says, it amounts to nothing but intimate self-projection, appropriate, perhaps, for <i>Penthouse Letters</i>, not a newspaper that is already struggling to be taken seriously, especially in the rugby dept.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t like Marx&#039;s piece. It was imputing to Rudd, as some probability, a lasciviousness which is in fact Marx&#039;s own, at least in his wettest dreams. He could get away with it in an independent blog, but I agree with them pulling it. Not a sacking offence, though, I agree, but I think the guy&#039;s full of it. 

The trouble with Rudd avoiding the wedge is that if he says he won&#039;t do any different from Howard, just to avoid the wedge, how can he as Prime Minister then say, &quot;Well, you know, I was only pretending. Now I&#039;m going to do what you all really wanted me to do.&quot; That would be like the non-core promises...although then again, that &lt;em&gt;would&lt;/em&gt; be just like Howard...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t like Marx&#8217;s piece. It was imputing to Rudd, as some probability, a lasciviousness which is in fact Marx&#8217;s own, at least in his wettest dreams. He could get away with it in an independent blog, but I agree with them pulling it. Not a sacking offence, though, I agree, but I think the guy&#8217;s full of it. </p>
<p>The trouble with Rudd avoiding the wedge is that if he says he won&#8217;t do any different from Howard, just to avoid the wedge, how can he as Prime Minister then say, &#8220;Well, you know, I was only pretending. Now I&#8217;m going to do what you all really wanted me to do.&#8221; That would be like the non-core promises&#8230;although then again, that <em>would</em> be just like Howard&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-167773</link>
		<dc:creator>Jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At least it would give Chris Sheil something else to read while boycotting Fairfaxs rugby coverage.&quot;

I speculate that CS&#039;s real problem is that he&#039;s forced to read The Oz seeing how much he despises that writer.

now he knows how right wingers feel when there&#039;s nothing but a Fairfax publication to pick up in the dentist lounge.
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I get the impression this blogger was trying to write a little more than standard blogging stuff. Add a few bit&#039;s here and there and it would not even have passed the xxxxx censor rating.

He gets it well though. Even from 10 years ago, I can recall the sweet scent of the the perfume on those gals. Vividly.

&quot;Kevin would have smelled her - the silky perfume, the hint of sweat, the musky other Kevin would have smelled her - the silky perfume, the hint of sweat, the musky other&quot;

I&#039;ll say. It&#039;s over 10 years ago and I till can too.

He even gets Kev&#039;s emotions right. I could well imagine a Queensland dude never knew such bodies existed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At least it would give Chris Sheil something else to read while boycotting Fairfaxs rugby coverage.&#8221;</p>
<p>I speculate that CS&#8217;s real problem is that he&#8217;s forced to read The Oz seeing how much he despises that writer.</p>
<p>now he knows how right wingers feel when there&#8217;s nothing but a Fairfax publication to pick up in the dentist lounge.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>I get the impression this blogger was trying to write a little more than standard blogging stuff. Add a few bit&#8217;s here and there and it would not even have passed the xxxxx censor rating.</p>
<p>He gets it well though. Even from 10 years ago, I can recall the sweet scent of the the perfume on those gals. Vividly.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kevin would have smelled her &#8211; the silky perfume, the hint of sweat, the musky other Kevin would have smelled her &#8211; the silky perfume, the hint of sweat, the musky other&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say. It&#8217;s over 10 years ago and I till can too.</p>
<p>He even gets Kev&#8217;s emotions right. I could well imagine a Queensland dude never knew such bodies existed.</p>
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		<title>By: patrickg</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/08/20/slack-hack-jack-sacked/#comment-167769</link>
		<dc:creator>patrickg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, too much gonzo, not enough journalism for me. I&#039;ve always felt that Marx was more interested in the construction of Jack Marx than any particular piece he was working on.

Indeed, I often came away from his work with the feeling that said pieces _were_ about Jack Marx, rather than the subject, and his stylistic flourishes not much more than a varnish enabling intellectuals could read pieces about movie stars etc. without feeling guilty.

Harsh I know, and I&#039;m not saying that the Marx experience for everyone.

I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll get work again soon enough, and I doubt this was the only reason he was fired myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, too much gonzo, not enough journalism for me. I&#8217;ve always felt that Marx was more interested in the construction of Jack Marx than any particular piece he was working on.</p>
<p>Indeed, I often came away from his work with the feeling that said pieces _were_ about Jack Marx, rather than the subject, and his stylistic flourishes not much more than a varnish enabling intellectuals could read pieces about movie stars etc. without feeling guilty.</p>
<p>Harsh I know, and I&#8217;m not saying that the Marx experience for everyone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll get work again soon enough, and I doubt this was the only reason he was fired myself.</p>
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