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	<title>Comments on: Weekend Poll: women using their husband&#8217;s surname</title>
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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link - Mapping and Naming edition</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183762</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link - Mapping and Naming edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] two thoughtful pieces apiece, while Darlene Taylor was in wholehearted agreement with Catherine. Nick&#8217;s first piece, which sought something akin to a statistical sample from Troppo&#8217;s commenters, is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] two thoughtful pieces apiece, while Darlene Taylor was in wholehearted agreement with Catherine. Nick&#8217;s first piece, which sought something akin to a statistical sample from Troppo&#8217;s commenters, is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Backroom Girl</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183415</link>
		<dc:creator>Backroom Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Martha, perhaps that&#039;s the modern compromise then</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Martha, perhaps that&#8217;s the modern compromise then</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Maus</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183395</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha Maus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backroom Girl, count me odd, here is evidence of my deep ambivalence. Despite taking my husband&#039;s name, I will not tolerate being addressed as Mrs ( husband&#039;s name), I have sent back several credit cards medicare cards when they ignore my directions or assume etc. Mrs X is HIS MOTHER for god&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backroom Girl, count me odd, here is evidence of my deep ambivalence. Despite taking my husband&#8217;s name, I will not tolerate being addressed as Mrs ( husband&#8217;s name), I have sent back several credit cards medicare cards when they ignore my directions or assume etc. Mrs X is HIS MOTHER for god&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: gilmae</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183386</link>
		<dc:creator>gilmae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Reasonably often though, Im addressed as Mrs (partners surname)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because so much is in my partner&#039;s name  I am reasonably regularly addressed as Mr (partner&#039;s surname). It comes in handy with telemarketers; they address me so, I reply &#039;kind of&#039; and already they are on the back foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Reasonably often though, Im addressed as Mrs (partners surname)</p></blockquote>
<p>Because so much is in my partner&#8217;s name  I am reasonably regularly addressed as Mr (partner&#8217;s surname). It comes in handy with telemarketers; they address me so, I reply &#8216;kind of&#8217; and already they are on the back foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Backroom Girl</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183385</link>
		<dc:creator>Backroom Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The oddest case I remember coming across was a partnered (but not married) woman who had taken her partner&#039;s surname, but got awfully offended when someone addressed her as &quot;Mrs&quot;.  Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oddest case I remember coming across was a partnered (but not married) woman who had taken her partner&#8217;s surname, but got awfully offended when someone addressed her as &#8220;Mrs&#8221;.  Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183380</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had the same life partner for sixteen years but we&#039;re not married.  Reasonably often though, I&#039;m addressed as Mrs (partner&#039;s surname).  This happened almost every day when we were buying our house and getting the mortgage etc.  

I love the Icelandic naming system so much that it makes me want to go and live there. Everyone in a  family gets different names and nobody&#039;s name changes on marriage.  Instead of being Laura Carroll I&#039;d be Laura Annesdottir, formally known as Laura.  Brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the same life partner for sixteen years but we&#8217;re not married.  Reasonably often though, I&#8217;m addressed as Mrs (partner&#8217;s surname).  This happened almost every day when we were buying our house and getting the mortgage etc.  </p>
<p>I love the Icelandic naming system so much that it makes me want to go and live there. Everyone in a  family gets different names and nobody&#8217;s name changes on marriage.  Instead of being Laura Carroll I&#8217;d be Laura Annesdottir, formally known as Laura.  Brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: James Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183379</link>
		<dc:creator>James Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...giving children their fathers name is a public acknowledgement of his fatherhood. I know Im their mother without having to have the same name as them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;giving children their fathers name is a public acknowledgement of his fatherhood. I know Im their mother without having to have the same name as them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good point.</p>
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		<title>By: Backroom Girl</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183374</link>
		<dc:creator>Backroom Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pavlov&#039;s Cat - I have always used my maiden name (even though most people can&#039;t pronounce it - it is still &lt;strong&gt;my &lt;/strong&gt;name). I was a few years later marrying than you (1976), so didn&#039;t come up against quite as many hurdles, though I did have a couple of similar arguments with people early in the piece about whether such a thing was even possible.  I think you are right - it was partly that early computerised record-keeping systems hadn&#039;t been devised with dual surnames in mind - partly just that some people had difficulty coming to grips with the concept.

My two daughters have my husband&#039;s name - it is certainly easier to spell and pronounce than mine, but I also feel that giving children their father&#039;s name is a public acknowledgement of his fatherhood.  I know I&#039;m their mother without having to have the same name as them.

I didn&#039;t have children until the 1980s and 90s, but I have never found any real problems with dealing with school and other bureaucratic institutions under different names - I&#039;ve always made sure their dad does a fair bit of that stuff anyway.  These days with so many blended families around, lots of kids have even more complicated sets of parental and quasi-parental names to deal with.

My older daughter has recently married along with a couple of her best friends - she didn&#039;t change her name (the combination of her first name with her partner&#039;s surname would have been pretty dreadful), but at least one of her friends has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pavlov&#8217;s Cat &#8211; I have always used my maiden name (even though most people can&#8217;t pronounce it &#8211; it is still <strong>my </strong>name). I was a few years later marrying than you (1976), so didn&#8217;t come up against quite as many hurdles, though I did have a couple of similar arguments with people early in the piece about whether such a thing was even possible.  I think you are right &#8211; it was partly that early computerised record-keeping systems hadn&#8217;t been devised with dual surnames in mind &#8211; partly just that some people had difficulty coming to grips with the concept.</p>
<p>My two daughters have my husband&#8217;s name &#8211; it is certainly easier to spell and pronounce than mine, but I also feel that giving children their father&#8217;s name is a public acknowledgement of his fatherhood.  I know I&#8217;m their mother without having to have the same name as them.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t have children until the 1980s and 90s, but I have never found any real problems with dealing with school and other bureaucratic institutions under different names &#8211; I&#8217;ve always made sure their dad does a fair bit of that stuff anyway.  These days with so many blended families around, lots of kids have even more complicated sets of parental and quasi-parental names to deal with.</p>
<p>My older daughter has recently married along with a couple of her best friends &#8211; she didn&#8217;t change her name (the combination of her first name with her partner&#8217;s surname would have been pretty dreadful), but at least one of her friends has.</p>
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		<title>By: nabla</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183370</link>
		<dc:creator>nabla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a discussion I have had with my soon-to-be wife. She has decided (entirely on her own - I actually think her surname is a great name - lots of syllables and consonants) that it will be easier to not have to spell out her entire surname for the rest of her life - the first name is hard enough.

And on the husband changing his name issue - I know a person with the surname Dick. He recently married and expressed a desire to change his surname to his new wife&#039;s - he really had had enough of the puerile jokes. However, because his wife was from an Indonesian family with a proud tradition the father in law refused to allow it - he now uses his second name as his surname.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a discussion I have had with my soon-to-be wife. She has decided (entirely on her own &#8211; I actually think her surname is a great name &#8211; lots of syllables and consonants) that it will be easier to not have to spell out her entire surname for the rest of her life &#8211; the first name is hard enough.</p>
<p>And on the husband changing his name issue &#8211; I know a person with the surname Dick. He recently married and expressed a desire to change his surname to his new wife&#8217;s &#8211; he really had had enough of the puerile jokes. However, because his wife was from an Indonesian family with a proud tradition the father in law refused to allow it &#8211; he now uses his second name as his surname.</p>
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		<title>By: Jezery</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183356</link>
		<dc:creator>Jezery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I got married (1990), I was asked by a lot of people whether I was going to keep my maiden name or use my husband&#039;s name. There was no feeling that either was a foregone conclusion, rather that it was a decision we could make.

Personally, I couldn&#039;t wait to adopt hubby&#039;s surname, as my maiden name was a bit complicated to spell. I often joke that I looked everywhere for a Smith or a Jones, but had to settle for a Hart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I got married (1990), I was asked by a lot of people whether I was going to keep my maiden name or use my husband&#8217;s name. There was no feeling that either was a foregone conclusion, rather that it was a decision we could make.</p>
<p>Personally, I couldn&#8217;t wait to adopt hubby&#8217;s surname, as my maiden name was a bit complicated to spell. I often joke that I looked everywhere for a Smith or a Jones, but had to settle for a Hart.</p>
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		<title>By: D W Griffiths</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183317</link>
		<dc:creator>D W Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife started off in the early 90s using her married name in a couple of contexts and then found it was more convenient to migrate all the way across. Though I don&#039;t think she has any real regrets about the change, she might well be using her maiden name still in particular contexts if the system didn&#039;t force a one-or-the-other choice. I suspect (and so might she) that it is entirely reasonable for the system to force a choice, but it may be that the system could be run another way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife started off in the early 90s using her married name in a couple of contexts and then found it was more convenient to migrate all the way across. Though I don&#8217;t think she has any real regrets about the change, she might well be using her maiden name still in particular contexts if the system didn&#8217;t force a one-or-the-other choice. I suspect (and so might she) that it is entirely reasonable for the system to force a choice, but it may be that the system could be run another way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Cox</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183255</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our name is a convenient identifier for some social interaction but nowadays we are known by hundreds of names. I am AMEX xxxx-xxxx-xxx-xxx as well as 3-Mobile 0430xxxxxx. Each organisation with whom I deal gives me another identifier. People call me by different names (dad, granddad, xxxxx?). Identifiers are established for convenience. As the need for family group identification becomes less important then what name you use for social interaction will reflect your communication needs. For example my wife gives herself many different names when playing online bridge depending on whom she plays with.

The symbolism of a woman changing her name to her husband&#039;s is an emergent property of the identification system and now the convenience factor is reduced and even becomes inconvenient so we will see less changing of names but an increase in the symbolic strength of the action when a change occurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our name is a convenient identifier for some social interaction but nowadays we are known by hundreds of names. I am AMEX xxxx-xxxx-xxx-xxx as well as 3-Mobile 0430xxxxxx. Each organisation with whom I deal gives me another identifier. People call me by different names (dad, granddad, xxxxx?). Identifiers are established for convenience. As the need for family group identification becomes less important then what name you use for social interaction will reflect your communication needs. For example my wife gives herself many different names when playing online bridge depending on whom she plays with.</p>
<p>The symbolism of a woman changing her name to her husband&#8217;s is an emergent property of the identification system and now the convenience factor is reduced and even becomes inconvenient so we will see less changing of names but an increase in the symbolic strength of the action when a change occurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-183058</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicki,

I doubt very much if your next husband will want you to take on any name you don&#039;t want to take on.  But I guess it&#039;s possible.  No sign of that kind of sentiment on this thread anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicki,</p>
<p>I doubt very much if your next husband will want you to take on any name you don&#8217;t want to take on.  But I guess it&#8217;s possible.  No sign of that kind of sentiment on this thread anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-182844</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 07:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been married twice, and each time I took my husband&#039;s surname. That makes 3 surnames (together with my maiden name) I&#039;ve had.

So I thought, this is ridiculous. What if I ever wanted to marry again? (Yep, weirdly, I still believe in marriage - for myself - it&#039;s an individual thing.) Do I really change my name depending on what man I happen to be with at the time?

Our names identify us, and probably naturally I identify with my maiden name more than my subsequent 2 names. So as soon as I knew my second marriage was ending, I reverted to my maiden name because I was gaining a professional reputation under my married name. Messy, awkward, but I&#039;m happy with that decision and a year later things are pretty smooth.

Should I marry again, I will definitely keep my maiden name as a professional name. Whether or not I take on my husband&#039;s surname would depend largely on how important that is to him. I&#039;d prefer to keep my maiden name but in relationships I don&#039;t think there are many things that should be engraved in stone, and for me that&#039;s not one. It&#039;s ultimately about what works best for the people involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been married twice, and each time I took my husband&#8217;s surname. That makes 3 surnames (together with my maiden name) I&#8217;ve had.</p>
<p>So I thought, this is ridiculous. What if I ever wanted to marry again? (Yep, weirdly, I still believe in marriage &#8211; for myself &#8211; it&#8217;s an individual thing.) Do I really change my name depending on what man I happen to be with at the time?</p>
<p>Our names identify us, and probably naturally I identify with my maiden name more than my subsequent 2 names. So as soon as I knew my second marriage was ending, I reverted to my maiden name because I was gaining a professional reputation under my married name. Messy, awkward, but I&#8217;m happy with that decision and a year later things are pretty smooth.</p>
<p>Should I marry again, I will definitely keep my maiden name as a professional name. Whether or not I take on my husband&#8217;s surname would depend largely on how important that is to him. I&#8217;d prefer to keep my maiden name but in relationships I don&#8217;t think there are many things that should be engraved in stone, and for me that&#8217;s not one. It&#8217;s ultimately about what works best for the people involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Maus</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-182726</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha Maus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, forgot to say, I am using a pseudonym here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, forgot to say, I am using a pseudonym here.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Maus</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-182719</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha Maus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started off married life with my family name, my justification to him being that I was starting to publish under my name. It is an ethnic name that has caused pronounciation problems. 

The first interstate move I compromised to double barrel-dom with my surname first and then his. 

But he was and is a complete traditionalist and the subtle pressure combined with a career change and two moves later to a country town that couldnot/would not cope with my ethnic name meant I changed to his easy Anglo name.And it begins with &quot;A&quot; so I begin the professional lists. Yes, I can justify it as convenience. Yes, it still bothers me but it bothers me less than it would bother him, especially now we have children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started off married life with my family name, my justification to him being that I was starting to publish under my name. It is an ethnic name that has caused pronounciation problems. </p>
<p>The first interstate move I compromised to double barrel-dom with my surname first and then his. </p>
<p>But he was and is a complete traditionalist and the subtle pressure combined with a career change and two moves later to a country town that couldnot/would not cope with my ethnic name meant I changed to his easy Anglo name.And it begins with &#8220;A&#8221; so I begin the professional lists. Yes, I can justify it as convenience. Yes, it still bothers me but it bothers me less than it would bother him, especially now we have children.</p>
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		<title>By: gilmae</title>
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		<dc:creator>gilmae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My girlfriend intends to take my surname so she can stop using her ex-husband&#039;s name. She could go back to her maiden name, but then we&#039;d have three surnames in the family, with our daughter stuck with her father - the ex-husband&#039;s - name.

...

Actually, that&#039;d be kind of amusing, in a lowbrow, confusion-causing kind of way; I wonder if I can convince them to go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My girlfriend intends to take my surname so she can stop using her ex-husband&#8217;s name. She could go back to her maiden name, but then we&#8217;d have three surnames in the family, with our daughter stuck with her father &#8211; the ex-husband&#8217;s &#8211; name.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Actually, that&#8217;d be kind of amusing, in a lowbrow, confusion-causing kind of way; I wonder if I can convince them to go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sacha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister changed her surname when she became married. Her hubbie didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister changed her surname when she became married. Her hubbie didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Belshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Belshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that dates are important in all this because we are dealing with social trends. 

When I married (1987) Denise kept her maiden name, but the kids took my name. Denise comes from the high water mark period of feminism, thats another trend issue, and will not in fact answer to Mrs Belshaw. This sometimes caused minor ripples with my older relatives. The school handled the issue by addressing all letters to both of us with individual names.

With my daughters, 20, 18, I do not know what they might do.I do have the strong impression looking across those under thirty that there has been a reversion back to married names, but for different reasons than in the past. I also think that its now seen as a matter of individual choice. But both are just impressions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that dates are important in all this because we are dealing with social trends. </p>
<p>When I married (1987) Denise kept her maiden name, but the kids took my name. Denise comes from the high water mark period of feminism, thats another trend issue, and will not in fact answer to Mrs Belshaw. This sometimes caused minor ripples with my older relatives. The school handled the issue by addressing all letters to both of us with individual names.</p>
<p>With my daughters, 20, 18, I do not know what they might do.I do have the strong impression looking across those under thirty that there has been a reversion back to married names, but for different reasons than in the past. I also think that its now seen as a matter of individual choice. But both are just impressions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-182289</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 23:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t change my name when I got married, neither did my husband. Our children (boys) have his surname, but my surname as a middle name. If they had been girls, I would have wanted them to have my surname, as Just Me suggests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t change my name when I got married, neither did my husband. Our children (boys) have his surname, but my surname as a middle name. If they had been girls, I would have wanted them to have my surname, as Just Me suggests.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Me</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-182198</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;her children, a boy and a girl, have hyphenated surnames. I wonder what will happen if they themselves marry when theyre older .&quot;

One solution to this problem is that daughters take their mother&#039;s last name, and boys their father&#039;s. It does mean that male and female siblings have different surnames, but there are no perfect solutions to this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;her children, a boy and a girl, have hyphenated surnames. I wonder what will happen if they themselves marry when theyre older .&#8221;</p>
<p>One solution to this problem is that daughters take their mother&#8217;s last name, and boys their father&#8217;s. It does mean that male and female siblings have different surnames, but there are no perfect solutions to this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-182175</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caroline,

I went to school with someone who I ran into years later and who had taken his wife&#039;s name. 

Perhaps he didn&#039;t like his previous name (Cox).  He&#039;d taken the name Balabanski.  But I didn&#039;t ever ask him. 

PC - commiserations. An outrage. Thanks for the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caroline,</p>
<p>I went to school with someone who I ran into years later and who had taken his wife&#8217;s name. </p>
<p>Perhaps he didn&#8217;t like his previous name (Cox).  He&#8217;d taken the name Balabanski.  But I didn&#8217;t ever ask him. </p>
<p>PC &#8211; commiserations. An outrage. Thanks for the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-182148</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 12:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is going to sound incredible to anyone who didn&#039;t actually experience it, but when I married at 19 in 1973 I attempted to keep my own surname (for all the reasons that are taken for granted now), but was immediately told by various legal and social structures to which I unavoidably subscribed -- the ones I remember are the university, the taxation department and (most of all, interestingly) the health insurance people (this was pre-Medibank, just) -- that I couldn&#039;t do it. Their structures and/or methods of record-keeping simply did not compute the then radical notion of me being married but keeping my own surname: as far as they were concerned, the husband was the head of the household and the wife took the husband&#039;s name, full stop. It just wasn&#039;t possible for a woman to go on existing as an independent entity in any of these structures.

None of the people I dealt with while I was trying to sort this out could get their heads around the idea that a woman might not be thrilled and proud to tell the world she was married, by taking her husband&#039;s name and calling herself Mrs. Some of the older men I dealt with on phones and across desks were openly disapproving.

I ran out of energy to fight this in the end, and decided that &#039;liberation&#039; didn&#039;t mean endless bureaucratic struggles, so gave in and was officially known for several years by my husband&#039;s surname. When the marriage ended several years later I had to actually change my name by deed poll in order to get my own birth surname back. Which I did faster than you can say &#039;decree absolute&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to sound incredible to anyone who didn&#8217;t actually experience it, but when I married at 19 in 1973 I attempted to keep my own surname (for all the reasons that are taken for granted now), but was immediately told by various legal and social structures to which I unavoidably subscribed &#8212; the ones I remember are the university, the taxation department and (most of all, interestingly) the health insurance people (this was pre-Medibank, just) &#8212; that I couldn&#8217;t do it. Their structures and/or methods of record-keeping simply did not compute the then radical notion of me being married but keeping my own surname: as far as they were concerned, the husband was the head of the household and the wife took the husband&#8217;s name, full stop. It just wasn&#8217;t possible for a woman to go on existing as an independent entity in any of these structures.</p>
<p>None of the people I dealt with while I was trying to sort this out could get their heads around the idea that a woman might not be thrilled and proud to tell the world she was married, by taking her husband&#8217;s name and calling herself Mrs. Some of the older men I dealt with on phones and across desks were openly disapproving.</p>
<p>I ran out of energy to fight this in the end, and decided that &#8216;liberation&#8217; didn&#8217;t mean endless bureaucratic struggles, so gave in and was officially known for several years by my husband&#8217;s surname. When the marriage ended several years later I had to actually change my name by deed poll in order to get my own birth surname back. Which I did faster than you can say &#8216;decree absolute&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t drop syllables would be my more flippant advice.  Or more seriously, your individuality.  I think it is, was and will always be an outrageous practice to subsume and merge your individuality, even if in name alone, to another . . . person.  Which is basically where the tradition stems.  

Has there ever been a case of man taking on his wife&#039;s family name I wonder? And what would that imply?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t drop syllables would be my more flippant advice.  Or more seriously, your individuality.  I think it is, was and will always be an outrageous practice to subsume and merge your individuality, even if in name alone, to another . . . person.  Which is basically where the tradition stems.  </p>
<p>Has there ever been a case of man taking on his wife&#8217;s family name I wonder? And what would that imply?</p>
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		<title>By: LuckyPhil</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/08/weekend-poll-women-using-their-husbands-surname/#comment-182104</link>
		<dc:creator>LuckyPhil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife took my name simply because it has only two syllables (her&#039;s four) and is easier to get right when giving it someone to write down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife took my name simply because it has only two syllables (her&#8217;s four) and is easier to get right when giving it someone to write down.</p>
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