Comments on: And the winner is . . . Nominations for Walkley Award for Juvenile Social Commentary http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:02:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Jacques Chester http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185306 Jacques Chester Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:17:45 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185306 Jason; She just used your name with her own email. I've edited it. Jason;

She just used your name with her own email. I’ve edited it.

]]> By: Jason Soon http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185301 Jason Soon Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:39:38 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185301 For the record, no. 14 wasn't me. How the heck did that happen??? For the record, no. 14 wasn’t me. How the heck did that happen???

]]> By: Spiros http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185300 Spiros Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:38:25 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185300 "She has been described as a left-wing Andrew Bolt." Or even a left-wing Piers Ackerman. Deveny fills a much needed gap in the commentary market, which is a left-wing get-stuffed, I don't give a fat's clacker what you think,column. People not only read Deveny, they get worked up about what she says, they write outraged letters to the editor about her, and multiple blog bandwidth is devoted to what she she writes. This is so different from standard left wing commentary, which is earnest and boring. The Age must be delighted. The more she infuriates people, the more people are going to read her, just so they can get infuriated. “She has been described as a left-wing Andrew Bolt.”

Or even a left-wing Piers Ackerman.

Deveny fills a much needed gap in the commentary market, which is a left-wing get-stuffed, I don’t give a fat’s clacker what you think,column.

People not only read Deveny, they get worked up about what she says, they write outraged letters to the editor about her, and multiple blog bandwidth is devoted to what she she writes.

This is so different from standard left wing commentary, which is earnest and boring.

The Age must be delighted. The more she infuriates people, the more people are going to read her, just so they can get infuriated.

]]> By: Jason Soon http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185295 Jason Soon Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:49:42 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185295 <em>Kim Serca's comment deleted on account of misrepresentation of identity - Jacques.</em> Kim Serca’s comment deleted on account of misrepresentation of identity – Jacques.

]]> By: conrad http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185235 conrad Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:11:39 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185235 Feel free to substitute "Daily Telegraph" (no 2.) with "The Herald-Sun" (no 1.) and I believe the statement should still hold. Alos, given that The Age is not exactly the best paper on Earth either, you might like to consider what simply going for the largest readership in the short-term means. Be glad you can click around the world now for better sources of news. Feel free to substitute “Daily Telegraph” (no 2.) with “The Herald-Sun” (no 1.) and I believe the statement should still hold.

Alos, given that The Age is not exactly the best paper on Earth either, you might like to consider what simply going for the largest readership in the short-term means. Be glad you can click around the world now for better sources of news.

]]> By: Amanda http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185147 Amanda Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:50:07 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185147 Oops - meant to put that on a whole another thread. D'oh. Sorry. *cough* Oops – meant to put that on a whole another thread. D’oh. Sorry. *cough*

]]> By: Amanda http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185143 Amanda Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:38:48 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185143 An article about rugby and politics in France: http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2964469.ece An article about rugby and politics in France: http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2964469.ece

]]> By: Bill Posters http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185079 Bill Posters Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:20:58 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185079 <blockquote>In any case, if popularity was a proxy for quality, the Daily Telegraph would probably be considered a masterpiece.</blockquote> <a href="http://2007.crikey.com.au/Media-Arts-and-Sports/20070816-Newspaper-sales-decline-at-an-increased-rate.html" rel="nofollow">No it wouldn't.</a> The Daily Tel is in a bigger city than the Herald Sun, yet sells fewer copies. Even The Age doesn't look too shabby by comparison. It sells about two thirds as many copies as the Daily Telegraph, despite being an A-B focused broadsheet.

In any case, if popularity was a proxy for quality, the Daily Telegraph would probably be considered a masterpiece.

No it wouldn’t.

The Daily Tel is in a bigger city than the Herald Sun, yet sells fewer copies.

Even The Age doesn’t look too shabby by comparison. It sells about two thirds as many copies as the Daily Telegraph, despite being an A-B focused broadsheet.

]]> By: conrad http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185070 conrad Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:26:05 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185070 Thats a funny comment to come from someone that has written stuff for something like Arena Magazine, which as far as I'm aware, almost no-one reads. Perhaps more people might read it if they didn't have to pay. In any case, if popularity was a proxy for quality, the Daily Telegraph would probably be considered a masterpiece. Thats a funny comment to come from someone that has written stuff for something like Arena Magazine, which as far as I’m aware, almost no-one reads. Perhaps more people might read it if they didn’t have to pay. In any case, if popularity was a proxy for quality, the Daily Telegraph would probably be considered a masterpiece.

]]> By: Jason Soon http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185053 Jason Soon Sat, 15 Sep 2007 06:15:23 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185053 I'm sure Nick must be suffering from depression because he's not a journalist, kezza [snicker] I’m sure Nick must be suffering from depression because he’s not a journalist, kezza [snicker]

]]> By: Amanda http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185049 Amanda Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:39:58 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185049 Deveny's final par about sums up the situation in most cases though. Deveny’s final par about sums up the situation in most cases though.

]]> By: Jacques Chester http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185046 Jacques Chester Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:46:52 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185046 I might also point out that Nick Gruen does get paid for his views - he consults through Lateral Ecnomics and I imagine some of his many op-eds for various outlets are paid. I might also point out that Nick Gruen does get paid for his views – he consults through Lateral Ecnomics and I imagine some of his many op-eds for various outlets are paid.

]]> By: Jacques Chester http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185045 Jacques Chester Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:44:07 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185045 Wow, she gets to work for Fairfax. A newspaper company with a FUTURE. *snicker* OK, enough cheap shots. Need I remind everyone of our civil comments policy here? I've already had to edit one comment. Wow, she gets to work for Fairfax. A newspaper company with a FUTURE. *snicker*

OK, enough cheap shots. Need I remind everyone of our civil comments policy here? I’ve already had to edit one comment.

]]> By: kim Serca http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185005 kim Serca Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:01:05 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185005 yeah mate - and what really shits you is that Deveny's articles - especially those last two - regularly feature in the top 10 most read fairfax articles. And you're reduced to flogging your pathetic opinion on free-view sites like LP, catallaxy and Troppo. Must really shit you that no one will actually pay you. Kim S [comment edited -JC] yeah mate

- and what really shits you is that Deveny’s articles – especially those last two – regularly feature in the top 10 most read fairfax articles.

And you’re reduced to flogging your pathetic opinion on free-view sites like LP, catallaxy and Troppo. Must really shit you that no one will actually pay you.

Kim S

[comment edited -JC]

]]> By: Jason Soon http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185004 Jason Soon Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:45:30 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-185004 From her wiki entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Deveny <blockquote>Catherine Deveny is a comedy writer, stand-up comedian, and a regular and sometimes controversial columnist in the Age newspaper since 2001. She also writes frequently for other Australian and overseas publications. She has performed on most Australian TV networks, Australian premier comedy venues and on radio. <b>She has been described as a left-wing Andrew Bolt.</b></blockquote> From her wiki entry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Deveny

Catherine Deveny is a comedy writer, stand-up comedian, and a regular and sometimes controversial columnist in the Age newspaper since 2001. She also writes frequently for other Australian and overseas publications. She has performed on most Australian TV networks, Australian premier comedy venues and on radio. She has been described as a left-wing Andrew Bolt.

]]> By: conrad http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-184961 conrad Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:15:30 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-184961 Perhaps I'm an outlier, but I can't think of any of the other commentators in The Age that has been getting a regular spot of late who is worse than her. It seems to me she just poorly recycles last weeks (sometimes last months) often not very exciting topics. Perhaps I’m an outlier, but I can’t think of any of the other commentators in The Age that has been getting a regular spot of late who is worse than her. It seems to me she just poorly recycles last weeks (sometimes last months) often not very exciting topics.

]]> By: Damien Eldridge http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-184836 Damien Eldridge Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:01:32 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/09/14/who-will-win-the-walkley-award-for-juvenile-social-commentary/#comment-184836 I suspect that she gives a stuff about whether or not the Age's readership want to read what she wrotes, however. It seems silly to act annoyed about an oped generating controversy. Surely that is what they are supposed to do? I suspect that she gives a stuff about whether or not the Age’s readership want to read what she wrotes, however. It seems silly to act annoyed about an oped generating controversy. Surely that is what they are supposed to do?

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