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	<title>Comments on: Being Another Example of Abusing Posting Privileges</title>
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		<title>By: Anna Winter</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-201792</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can have my political welfare cheque when you pry it from my cold, grasping hands</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can have my political welfare cheque when you pry it from my cold, grasping hands</p>
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		<title>By: Yobbo</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-201552</link>
		<dc:creator>Yobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, that&#039;s what all minor parties do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, that&#8217;s what all minor parties do.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-201490</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques,

After looking at the NSW senate preference ticket from the LDP, I realise I&#039;ve been a little harsh on the LDP thinking it was completely useless.  However, your mates have done Australians a good service by identifying every nutjob, crazy, backwards or downright stupid senate candidate and preferenced them accordingly.  Happily, this makes senate voting easy in 2007 - just follow the LDP sheet backwards.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques,</p>
<p>After looking at the NSW senate preference ticket from the LDP, I realise I&#8217;ve been a little harsh on the LDP thinking it was completely useless.  However, your mates have done Australians a good service by identifying every nutjob, crazy, backwards or downright stupid senate candidate and preferenced them accordingly.  Happily, this makes senate voting easy in 2007 &#8211; just follow the LDP sheet backwards.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200519</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the counselor based? And what school of psychology do they hail from? Lowly, debauched &amp; morally bankrupt minds demand to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the counselor based? And what school of psychology do they hail from? Lowly, debauched &#038; morally bankrupt minds demand to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Patient</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200392</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Patient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques, I stand ready and willing to help you, however I think you will reject my offer. The only help I am willing to offer is a series of sessions with a counselor I know. Why would anyone want to enter politics? Has your life descended so low, have you become so debauched that you wish to enter the world of the morally bankrupt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques, I stand ready and willing to help you, however I think you will reject my offer. The only help I am willing to offer is a series of sessions with a counselor I know. Why would anyone want to enter politics? Has your life descended so low, have you become so debauched that you wish to enter the world of the morally bankrupt?</p>
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		<title>By: Yobbo</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200346</link>
		<dc:creator>Yobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course we will accept the money if we get 4%. Then if elected, will immediately push to have the funding abolished.

There&#039;s no &quot;principles&quot; being violated here.

Just because we think taxes should be lowered doesn&#039;t mean we break the law by not paying tax. We work within the current system, but intend to make changes to that system when elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we will accept the money if we get 4%. Then if elected, will immediately push to have the funding abolished.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no &#8220;principles&#8221; being violated here.</p>
<p>Just because we think taxes should be lowered doesn&#8217;t mean we break the law by not paying tax. We work within the current system, but intend to make changes to that system when elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200330</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Do Libertarians accept electoral funding form the taxpayer?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I honestly haven&#039;t thought of that. In the short run the money would be good, but in the long run we would benefit more from the principled stand of refusing it. In practice it may not be a problem we have to face, since funding kicks in only on a 4%+ primary vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do Libertarians accept electoral funding form the taxpayer?</p></blockquote>
<p>I honestly haven&#8217;t thought of that. In the short run the money would be good, but in the long run we would benefit more from the principled stand of refusing it. In practice it may not be a problem we have to face, since funding kicks in only on a 4%+ primary vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200328</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;While I admire the fact that you can start a campaign for a seat from another another state, I am annoyed that you are prostituting the site to gain help for your own campaign.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve been in Darwin since the second day of the campaign. I was born, raised and in large part educated here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While I admire the fact that you can start a campaign for a seat from another another state, I am annoyed that you are prostituting the site to gain help for your own campaign.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in Darwin since the second day of the campaign. I was born, raised and in large part educated here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200325</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chuckle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chuckle</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200318</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wilful said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Do Libertarians accept electoral funding form the taxpayer?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See, that sounds like the first half of a bad joke.

&quot;How many Libertarians does it take to accept public electoral funding?&quot;

&quot;Twenty, one to re-appropriate his stolen tax money, eighteen to complain bitterly about it on Catallaxy, one to solemnly clean his gun&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wilful said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Do Libertarians accept electoral funding form the taxpayer?</p></blockquote>
<p>See, that sounds like the first half of a bad joke.</p>
<p>&#8220;How many Libertarians does it take to accept public electoral funding?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Twenty, one to re-appropriate his stolen tax money, eighteen to complain bitterly about it on Catallaxy, one to solemnly clean his gun&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wilful</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200309</link>
		<dc:creator>wilful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who have donated to the website in any meaningful way can complain.

So I wont.

Not that I would have. Do Libertarians accept electoral funding form the taxpayer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who have donated to the website in any meaningful way can complain.</p>
<p>So I wont.</p>
<p>Not that I would have. Do Libertarians accept electoral funding form the taxpayer?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200307</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be perfectly happy for other candidates to solicit for campaign help here (within reason).  However the ALP and CLP are unlikely to do so because they have party branch structures through which to do that.  Moreover, I fail to see how ASR sees Jacques&#039; candidacy as a &quot;quest for self-promotion&quot;.  Surely performing a civic/democratic function like standing for public office can&#039;t simply be glibly dismissed in that way.  No doubt all candidates are motivated partly by personal ambition and many no doubt enjoy the media spotlight to an extent (not that minor party and independent candidates get much of it). But that doesn&#039;t provide any rational justification for ASR&#039;s evident personal animus.  

I don&#039;t know whether he/she has had run-ins with Jacques in some other context, or whether he/she simply uncritically accepts the ALP propaganda that Jacques is a &quot;Tollner stooge&quot;. If it&#039;s the latter, I think it&#039;s a bum rap.  Anyone who&#039;s read Jacques&#039; posts here and elsewhere over the last several years will know that his libertarian principles are both sincere and longstanding (although I personally disagree with numerous aspects of them).  It&#039;s a logical step for someone with passionate libertarian principles to stand for the LDP. Good on him for doing so.  At least it gives voters some small element of choice in a &quot;me too&quot; political era.  After all, neither major party (and even less the Greens or Democrats) has policies that can properly be labelled as strongly libertarian; certainly not the Coalition under John Howard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be perfectly happy for other candidates to solicit for campaign help here (within reason).  However the ALP and CLP are unlikely to do so because they have party branch structures through which to do that.  Moreover, I fail to see how ASR sees Jacques&#8217; candidacy as a &#8220;quest for self-promotion&#8221;.  Surely performing a civic/democratic function like standing for public office can&#8217;t simply be glibly dismissed in that way.  No doubt all candidates are motivated partly by personal ambition and many no doubt enjoy the media spotlight to an extent (not that minor party and independent candidates get much of it). But that doesn&#8217;t provide any rational justification for ASR&#8217;s evident personal animus.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether he/she has had run-ins with Jacques in some other context, or whether he/she simply uncritically accepts the ALP propaganda that Jacques is a &#8220;Tollner stooge&#8221;. If it&#8217;s the latter, I think it&#8217;s a bum rap.  Anyone who&#8217;s read Jacques&#8217; posts here and elsewhere over the last several years will know that his libertarian principles are both sincere and longstanding (although I personally disagree with numerous aspects of them).  It&#8217;s a logical step for someone with passionate libertarian principles to stand for the LDP. Good on him for doing so.  At least it gives voters some small element of choice in a &#8220;me too&#8221; political era.  After all, neither major party (and even less the Greens or Democrats) has policies that can properly be labelled as strongly libertarian; certainly not the Coalition under John Howard.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200295</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bollocks, ASR - this is a blog, not the ABC. If you do not want to read something here, then don&#039;t. If it annoys you, don&#039;t come back. Your money is not being used for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bollocks, ASR &#8211; this is a blog, not the ABC. If you do not want to read something here, then don&#8217;t. If it annoys you, don&#8217;t come back. Your money is not being used for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Annoyed Solomon Reader</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/11/13/being-another-example-of-abusing-posting-privileges/#comment-200294</link>
		<dc:creator>Annoyed Solomon Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I admire the fact that you can start a campaign for a seat from another another state, I am annoyed that you are prostituting the site to gain help for your own campaign.

Does this mean that every candidate ALP, CLP, Greens or even the CEC can now beg on this site for help?

Please don&#039;t discredit yourself or the intelligence of the readership by pleading for help in your quest for self promotion, please remove this request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I admire the fact that you can start a campaign for a seat from another another state, I am annoyed that you are prostituting the site to gain help for your own campaign.</p>
<p>Does this mean that every candidate ALP, CLP, Greens or even the CEC can now beg on this site for help?</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t discredit yourself or the intelligence of the readership by pleading for help in your quest for self promotion, please remove this request.</p>
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