Comments on: Failure http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/12/14/failure/ Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:24:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Jacques Chester http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/12/14/failure/#comment-211279 Jacques Chester Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:24:37 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/?p=4687#comment-211279 cam; I actually have tooled around some erlang code, in a vain attempt to avoid scaling problems a bit. The problem is that a lot of my problems with Wordpress are institutional -- part of how the project operates. There's more that should be done than I can do. cam;

I actually have tooled around some erlang code, in a vain attempt to avoid scaling problems a bit. The problem is that a lot of my problems with Wordpress are institutional — part of how the project operates. There’s more that should be done than I can do.

]]> By: Jacques Chester http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/12/14/failure/#comment-211277 Jacques Chester Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:17:49 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/?p=4687#comment-211277 <blockquote>Problems with WP are mostly the fault of users fiddling with it, using plugins which have not been adequately tested or installed, badly designed themes which are not fully IE/Firefox compatible, or additional layers such as K2.</blockquote> Your experiences have differed from mine. I have come across genuine boneheaded bugs. The worst part is when they are in the bug tracker marked closed with worksforme. I have come across two such bugs in just the last few days, including the aforementioned forkbomb yesterday. Essentially you are saying that if we're prepared to give up plugins everything will be hunky-dorey. You'd be right, though that just avoids the issue by trading away the major selling point of Wordpress. Let me say that again: the major selling point for Wordpress is not Wordpress. It is the ecosystem around Wordpress. The program itself is not that good, and the project that runs it pay lip service only to fixing bugs. And yes, I do read the mailing list and use the bugtracker. It still doesn't help.

Problems with WP are mostly the fault of users fiddling with it, using plugins which have not been adequately tested or installed, badly designed themes which are not fully IE/Firefox compatible, or additional layers such as K2.

Your experiences have differed from mine. I have come across genuine boneheaded bugs. The worst part is when they are in the bug tracker marked closed with worksforme. I have come across two such bugs in just the last few days, including the aforementioned forkbomb yesterday.

Essentially you are saying that if we’re prepared to give up plugins everything will be hunky-dorey. You’d be right, though that just avoids the issue by trading away the major selling point of Wordpress.

Let me say that again: the major selling point for Wordpress is not Wordpress. It is the ecosystem around Wordpress. The program itself is not that good, and the project that runs it pay lip service only to fixing bugs. And yes, I do read the mailing list and use the bugtracker. It still doesn’t help.

]]> By: Sans Blog http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/12/14/failure/#comment-211108 Sans Blog Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:28:40 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/?p=4687#comment-211108 I have installed and maintained many WP blogs and do not agree with what you say about WordPress. I have also been an IT professional since 1969. Problems with WP are mostly the fault of users fiddling with it, using plugins which have not been adequately tested or installed, badly designed themes which are not fully IE/Firefox compatible, or additional layers such as K2. The real problem with blogs such as Troppo, LP etc. lies in the poor choice of web hosts (usually chosen on price alone) and other hardware 'solutions'. This is exacerbated by well-meaning amateurs administering the hardware and/or software. Notice that LP is running without problems in exile at Wordpress.com because no one can fiddle with the software and it is running on professional hardware selected to take the load. I have installed and maintained many WP blogs and do not agree with what you say about WordPress. I have also been an IT professional since 1969.

Problems with WP are mostly the fault of users fiddling with it, using plugins which have not been adequately tested or installed, badly designed themes which are not fully IE/Firefox compatible, or additional layers such as K2.

The real problem with blogs such as Troppo, LP etc. lies in the poor choice of web hosts (usually chosen on price alone) and other hardware ’solutions’. This is exacerbated by well-meaning amateurs administering the hardware and/or software.

Notice that LP is running without problems in exile at Wordpress.com because no one can fiddle with the software and it is running on professional hardware selected to take the load.

]]> By: cam http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/12/14/failure/#comment-211089 cam Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:48:44 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/?p=4687#comment-211089 You are left no choice but to write your own blog software in lisp. I suggest you run it as emacs on the server with a clubtroppo blog plugin. Only smelly hippies from MIT can be trusted now. You are left no choice but to write your own blog software in lisp. I suggest you run it as emacs on the server with a clubtroppo blog plugin.

Only smelly hippies from MIT can be trusted now.

]]> By: Mark U http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/12/14/failure/#comment-211039 Mark U Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:21:21 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/?p=4687#comment-211039 Perhaps you should take Harry Clarke's advice. http://kalimna.blogspot.com/2007/12/keeping-it-simple-computers-blogging.html Perhaps you should take Harry Clarke’s advice.

http://kalimna.blogspot.com/2007/12/keeping-it-simple-computers-blogging.html

]]> By: Patrick http://clubtroppo.com.au/2007/12/14/failure/#comment-211033 Patrick Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:55:52 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/?p=4687#comment-211033 Thanks Jacques - you know we love you for it, if that is any consolation :) Thanks Jacques - you know we love you for it, if that is any consolation :)

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