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		<title>By: Andrew Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239932</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas,
Yes, you can. I do not like having cables, so I avoid them where I can. The X20 also only had one USB port so built in bluetooth would have been really handy. I think the newer ones have more.
The thing with the (IBM - I have not had a lenovo) Thinkpads is that despite their small size they were built like brick outhouses. The X20 is now used by my kids and it is still working away happily, despite being sadly abused and getting on for 8 years old. The only thing that has been replaced is the battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas,<br />
Yes, you can. I do not like having cables, so I avoid them where I can. The X20 also only had one USB port so built in bluetooth would have been really handy. I think the newer ones have more.<br />
The thing with the (IBM &#8211; I have not had a lenovo) Thinkpads is that despite their small size they were built like brick outhouses. The X20 is now used by my kids and it is still working away happily, despite being sadly abused and getting on for 8 years old. The only thing that has been replaced is the battery.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239837</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas, I have to confirm misterz at #30.   My Sony had an accident with a drink at one point, and Sony Aus flat out refused to fix it (even though I was paying) because it was a Canadian release model.   

They only agreed to touch it after I proved that it was identical to an Australian release model with a different model number, and even then they wouldn&#039;t so much as upgrade the memory for me.  I had to do that myself.

As for your question re. processor speed I always get as much memory as I can.   But the thing to realise is that laptops have slower components all round:- CPU, memory access times, disk rotation, everything is all slower which leads to a machine with a different (slower) balance.   It&#039;s a trade off, you have to live with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas, I have to confirm misterz at #30.   My Sony had an accident with a drink at one point, and Sony Aus flat out refused to fix it (even though I was paying) because it was a Canadian release model.   </p>
<p>They only agreed to touch it after I proved that it was identical to an Australian release model with a different model number, and even then they wouldn&#8217;t so much as upgrade the memory for me.  I had to do that myself.</p>
<p>As for your question re. processor speed I always get as much memory as I can.   But the thing to realise is that laptops have slower components all round:- CPU, memory access times, disk rotation, everything is all slower which leads to a machine with a different (slower) balance.   It&#8217;s a trade off, you have to live with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239767</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx Simon, not fussed about the CD drive - would rather an external one anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx Simon, not fussed about the CD drive &#8211; would rather an external one anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: mister z</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239758</link>
		<dc:creator>mister z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas, just be aware that if you purchase from Sony USA you may find yourself needing to send your laptop back to America for any manufacturer or under-warranty repairs throughout the life of it.

I purchased a Sony Vaio while living in the US a few years back, and when the internal fan broke and needed replacing after I&#039;d moved to the UK, Sony Europe wouldn&#039;t touch it. Nor could local repair shops seem to be able to source the exact US-model-specific components needed for repair. The only option presented to me was to ship the laptop to the US for repairs indicatively billed at &gt;100% of the NPV of the machine.

Fortunately a </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas, just be aware that if you purchase from Sony USA you may find yourself needing to send your laptop back to America for any manufacturer or under-warranty repairs throughout the life of it.</p>
<p>I purchased a Sony Vaio while living in the US a few years back, and when the internal fan broke and needed replacing after I&#8217;d moved to the UK, Sony Europe wouldn&#8217;t touch it. Nor could local repair shops seem to be able to source the exact US-model-specific components needed for repair. The only option presented to me was to ship the laptop to the US for repairs indicatively billed at &gt;100% of the NPV of the machine.</p>
<p>Fortunately a </p>
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		<title>By: Simon Sharwood</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239701</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Sharwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an IT journo and have tested one of these and it is lovely ... but the optical drive is flaky.
The drive just doesn&#039;t seem to want to identify itself to the computer sometimes.
Other IT journos I have spoken to have experienced the same problem.
Now you won&#039;t use the optical drive a lot on the road, other than for watching the odd movie. If you can live without DVD-on-demand, it&#039;s a nice machine, if flaky and expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an IT journo and have tested one of these and it is lovely &#8230; but the optical drive is flaky.<br />
The drive just doesn&#8217;t seem to want to identify itself to the computer sometimes.<br />
Other IT journos I have spoken to have experienced the same problem.<br />
Now you won&#8217;t use the optical drive a lot on the road, other than for watching the odd movie. If you can live without DVD-on-demand, it&#8217;s a nice machine, if flaky and expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: swio</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239691</link>
		<dc:creator>swio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hadn&#039;t thought of using a blue tooth mouse. That would definitely be a good idea and very convinient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hadn&#8217;t thought of using a blue tooth mouse. That would definitely be a good idea and very convinient.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239683</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx Andrew - presumably I can just use a USB mouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx Andrew &#8211; presumably I can just use a USB mouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239669</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas,
I have been a fan of the X series since my first - an X20 years ago. Best of all it still works and runs full Windows XP - just a bit slower than my desktop.
If you do not like the red thingy, just get the laptop with bluetooth and use an external mouse. The MS bluetooth presenter mice are great and you can then use them when presenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas,<br />
I have been a fan of the X series since my first &#8211; an X20 years ago. Best of all it still works and runs full Windows XP &#8211; just a bit slower than my desktop.<br />
If you do not like the red thingy, just get the laptop with bluetooth and use an external mouse. The MS bluetooth presenter mice are great and you can then use them when presenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239380</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swio - I have tried them and I don&#039;t like them.  Perhaps with practice I&#039;d change my view, but last time I practised I thought it was much less dexterous than a trackpad AND I got a sore pinkey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swio &#8211; I have tried them and I don&#8217;t like them.  Perhaps with practice I&#8217;d change my view, but last time I practised I thought it was much less dexterous than a trackpad AND I got a sore pinkey!</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239378</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.faber-castell.de/docs/index-news_asp_id~14507_domid~1010_sp~E_addlastid~0_m1~10329_m2~20551_m3~24486_m4~14507_suma~.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt; Nick?

They work great with wifi enabled cocktail napkins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried one of <a href="http://www.faber-castell.de/docs/index-news_asp_id~14507_domid~1010_sp~E_addlastid~0_m1~10329_m2~20551_m3~24486_m4~14507_suma~.htm">these</a> Nick?</p>
<p>They work great with wifi enabled cocktail napkins.</p>
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		<title>By: swio</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239372</link>
		<dc:creator>swio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is faster than the Toshiba. Unlike most other ultra portables the X series runs pretty much the same hardware as a normal laptop. The tradeoffs are that it weighs a little more, is a little thicker and has no dvd player but you do get a proper laptop.

The red dot (called Trackpoint) is a personal thing. I love it. It does take a little getting used to but in my opinion (obviously biased) its better than a trackpad and I actually use the trackpoint in preference to a mouse on my own Thinkpad. Because it lets you use the mouse without moving your hands off the keyboard you can be very productive with it. However you really have to try it out. But if you don&#039;t like it then definitely don&#039;t get an X series as you&#039;ll have to use it alot more than you might think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is faster than the Toshiba. Unlike most other ultra portables the X series runs pretty much the same hardware as a normal laptop. The tradeoffs are that it weighs a little more, is a little thicker and has no dvd player but you do get a proper laptop.</p>
<p>The red dot (called Trackpoint) is a personal thing. I love it. It does take a little getting used to but in my opinion (obviously biased) its better than a trackpad and I actually use the trackpoint in preference to a mouse on my own Thinkpad. Because it lets you use the mouse without moving your hands off the keyboard you can be very productive with it. However you really have to try it out. But if you don&#8217;t like it then definitely don&#8217;t get an X series as you&#8217;ll have to use it alot more than you might think.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239354</link>
		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it faster than the Toshiba?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

swio appears to be awol, so I&#039;ll answer the question instead :)

Yes, it is. The cheapest one at swio&#039;s link (AUD 1,999) has a 2.0 GHz duo processor, versus the 1.2 GHz duo in the R500, i.e. about 70% faster. It weighs 1.44 kg.

The dearest one (AUD 3,099) is a bit faster again, with a 2.2 GHz duo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is it faster than the Toshiba?</p></blockquote>
<p>swio appears to be awol, so I&#8217;ll answer the question instead :)</p>
<p>Yes, it is. The cheapest one at swio&#8217;s link (AUD 1,999) has a 2.0 GHz duo processor, versus the 1.2 GHz duo in the R500, i.e. about 70% faster. It weighs 1.44 kg.</p>
<p>The dearest one (AUD 3,099) is a bit faster again, with a 2.2 GHz duo.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239318</link>
		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also second what Mark said about the Toshibas. I always get the Satellites (the cheap ones). Never had one die on me, never had to get one fixed. Had to replace batteries on one of the early ones, but that&#039;s all. The reason for getting a new one every few years that the new ones are faster, come with more memory and disc space, don&#039;t run Windows 98, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also second what Mark said about the Toshibas. I always get the Satellites (the cheap ones). Never had one die on me, never had to get one fixed. Had to replace batteries on one of the early ones, but that&#8217;s all. The reason for getting a new one every few years that the new ones are faster, come with more memory and disc space, don&#8217;t run Windows 98, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239294</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SWIO, I hate the little red dot - prefer what most people prefer which is the trackpad.  But it is true that I don&#039;t use it in portable that much so perhaps I should go with that. Is it faster than the Toshiba?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SWIO, I hate the little red dot &#8211; prefer what most people prefer which is the trackpad.  But it is true that I don&#8217;t use it in portable that much so perhaps I should go with that. Is it faster than the Toshiba?</p>
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		<title>By: conrad</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239283</link>
		<dc:creator>conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with SJ. Don&#039;t get Vista unless you really need it. It chews through the memory and runs more slowly than XP. It also seems to have lots of bugs, and a fair bit of older software won&#039;t work on it (Fireworks 3, for example).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with SJ. Don&#8217;t get Vista unless you really need it. It chews through the memory and runs more slowly than XP. It also seems to have lots of bugs, and a fair bit of older software won&#8217;t work on it (Fireworks 3, for example).</p>
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		<title>By: swio</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239261</link>
		<dc:creator>swio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best ultra portable for what you are after is probably the Lenovo Thinkpad X41. It doesn&#039;t have an optical drive but you can add it on externally.

http://www-604.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=10000036&amp;catalogId=-36&amp;langId=036&amp;categoryId=4611686018425096207&amp;seriesid=2060574

&quot;that I can hook up to an external keyboard, mouse and screen at home&quot;
It can be connected to a docking station. When you get home you just have to drop it into the docking station and you&#039;re away. No hooking up of cables etc.

&quot;and use as my main computer&quot;
Its CPU, memory, hard drive are all full spec. Its as powerful as a home PC. It doesn&#039;t have a built in optical drive, but you can connect one externally. Also has a very good full size keyboad.

They&#039;re bulletproof. Thinkpads are made with metal frames and can take alot of abuse. Even after years of 50 hour weeks you are unlikely to discover the space bar is not working or the hinge is coming loose. If you don&#039;t belive me check out the price for second hand ones on ebay.

Battery life is incredible. You may think that this doesn&#039;t matter but that&#039;s probably because you&#039;ve never used a laptop that could go for hours away from a power point. Believe me, once you&#039;ve tried it you&#039;ll want long batter life. Get the 8 cell battery and you can use your laptop in the park all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best ultra portable for what you are after is probably the Lenovo Thinkpad X41. It doesn&#8217;t have an optical drive but you can add it on externally.</p>
<p><a href="http://www-604.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=10000036&#038;catalogId=-36&#038;langId=036&#038;categoryId=4611686018425096207&#038;seriesid=2060574">http://www-604.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=10000036&#038;catalogId=-36&#038;langId=036&#038;categoryId=4611686018425096207&#038;seriesid=2060574</a></p>
<p>&#8220;that I can hook up to an external keyboard, mouse and screen at home&#8221;<br />
It can be connected to a docking station. When you get home you just have to drop it into the docking station and you&#8217;re away. No hooking up of cables etc.</p>
<p>&#8220;and use as my main computer&#8221;<br />
Its CPU, memory, hard drive are all full spec. Its as powerful as a home PC. It doesn&#8217;t have a built in optical drive, but you can connect one externally. Also has a very good full size keyboad.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re bulletproof. Thinkpads are made with metal frames and can take alot of abuse. Even after years of 50 hour weeks you are unlikely to discover the space bar is not working or the hinge is coming loose. If you don&#8217;t belive me check out the price for second hand ones on ebay.</p>
<p>Battery life is incredible. You may think that this doesn&#8217;t matter but that&#8217;s probably because you&#8217;ve never used a laptop that could go for hours away from a power point. Believe me, once you&#8217;ve tried it you&#8217;ll want long batter life. Get the 8 cell battery and you can use your laptop in the park all day.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239259</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the eeePC is a good option, but I want something I can use on the desktop and for travelling - so I&#039;m not madly backing things up etc. I also wish they&#039;d given it a bigger keyboard. 

My fave computer of all time was a great Sharm ultralight - with external CD - which I didn&#039;t bother buying.  Very light - quite big, so the keyboard was just a bit smaller than standard - easy to use. 

But that was ten years ago, and for some reason they didn&#039;t really keep up with the pack.  But it was a great machine - still is - but it&#039;s Win 98 and has a 6 Gig hard drive and one USB port that doesn&#039;t work properly because it&#039;s incompatible with some USB standards that have emerged since. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the eeePC is a good option, but I want something I can use on the desktop and for travelling &#8211; so I&#8217;m not madly backing things up etc. I also wish they&#8217;d given it a bigger keyboard. </p>
<p>My fave computer of all time was a great Sharm ultralight &#8211; with external CD &#8211; which I didn&#8217;t bother buying.  Very light &#8211; quite big, so the keyboard was just a bit smaller than standard &#8211; easy to use. </p>
<p>But that was ten years ago, and for some reason they didn&#8217;t really keep up with the pack.  But it was a great machine &#8211; still is &#8211; but it&#8217;s Win 98 and has a 6 Gig hard drive and one USB port that doesn&#8217;t work properly because it&#8217;s incompatible with some USB standards that have emerged since. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Davis</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239243</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keyboard size might rule it out for you, but the lightest and cheapest thing around right now is the ASUS eeePC for about $500. About the size of your standard paperpack, little seven inch screen. Full keyboard but keys are quite small (understandable given the size of the thing). No moving parts, no hard drive, 4GB flash memory. Comes with Linux pre-installed (sounds uber geeky, but it works right out of the box - Firefox web browser, Open office etc) but will run Windows XP with standard Office software etc. You store your data on removeable media - thumb drives or an SD card (I use an 8GB SD card). Three hours battery life. Web cam and microphone built in.  

In no way a desktop replacement - I think of it as a satellite unit. Small, light  and rugged enough (no hard drive = no moving parts) to throw into a backpack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keyboard size might rule it out for you, but the lightest and cheapest thing around right now is the ASUS eeePC for about $500. About the size of your standard paperpack, little seven inch screen. Full keyboard but keys are quite small (understandable given the size of the thing). No moving parts, no hard drive, 4GB flash memory. Comes with Linux pre-installed (sounds uber geeky, but it works right out of the box &#8211; Firefox web browser, Open office etc) but will run Windows XP with standard Office software etc. You store your data on removeable media &#8211; thumb drives or an SD card (I use an 8GB SD card). Three hours battery life. Web cam and microphone built in.  </p>
<p>In no way a desktop replacement &#8211; I think of it as a satellite unit. Small, light  and rugged enough (no hard drive = no moving parts) to throw into a backpack.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239197</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t really advise on the technical stuff, but I&#039;ve got a Toshiba and I find it really good, and friends who work in IT tell me they&#039;ve got superior components to most of the stuff on the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t really advise on the technical stuff, but I&#8217;ve got a Toshiba and I find it really good, and friends who work in IT tell me they&#8217;ve got superior components to most of the stuff on the market.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239064</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SATP - Wow, that&#039;s some good battery life. I thought about getting one of those hot little numbers but it was outside my budget. Are you getting those sorts of times running Vista, XP, or Linux?

I bought my Macbook expecting a 4 - 5 hour battery life, which I was happy with that given my old Thinkpad could only go for about 2 - 2.5 hours even given one of those clunky extra-large batteries. I was super-happy to find out that the 4 - 5 hours is when you have wifi and a bunch of apps going. If I&#039;m just typing stuff and have a pdf viewer open I can get my battery to go for over 7 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SATP &#8211; Wow, that&#8217;s some good battery life. I thought about getting one of those hot little numbers but it was outside my budget. Are you getting those sorts of times running Vista, XP, or Linux?</p>
<p>I bought my Macbook expecting a 4 &#8211; 5 hour battery life, which I was happy with that given my old Thinkpad could only go for about 2 &#8211; 2.5 hours even given one of those clunky extra-large batteries. I was super-happy to find out that the 4 &#8211; 5 hours is when you have wifi and a bunch of apps going. If I&#8217;m just typing stuff and have a pdf viewer open I can get my battery to go for over 7 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-239013</link>
		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas:  The small size &amp; longer battery life (the PLUS features) of a micro-laptop incur tradeoffs in processing speed and higher price.

I can live with some slower speed when in airport lounges as in return I get a laptop more or less the same weight as a paperback novel &amp; with a smaller footprint than TIME magazine (&amp; only as as thick as the first knuckle on my little finger).

All my other laptops supposedly had a Four hour battery life.  (Ha ha, as IF!)  In reality after a couple of months I was lucky if they didn&#039;t power down after an hour &amp; a half.  This was annoying on almost any flight.  On top of that they were cumbersome &amp; couldn&#039;t be opened fully on a tray table, AND they were fragile, so easy to crack the screen or scratch the hard drive, even with all care taken.  I averaged a crash every 18 months.

The smaller ones open so handily on a traytable, &amp; processing speed is not so much an issue when typing in Excel, Word or Outlook Express, however battery life IS an issue.  I DO get Nine hours battery life from the cute little Sony Vaio, this despite the salemen all telling me that Five hours is all one can expect.  In in airport lounge, connected to the net wirelessly, and having to brighten the screen just to see it, I get about Five hours.

There is nothing like 7 or 8 hours uninterrupted typing on an international leg to get all letter writing &amp; just about any other typing obligation out of the way.  Though this can set you up to be a bit weary if you have to hit the ground running upon arrival.

My Vaio was $4,500 it is going to outlast at least 4 x $1,000-$1,500 laptops.

Depends on your budget, if upfront money is not an object, buy the lightest thing you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas:  The small size &amp; longer battery life (the PLUS features) of a micro-laptop incur tradeoffs in processing speed and higher price.</p>
<p>I can live with some slower speed when in airport lounges as in return I get a laptop more or less the same weight as a paperback novel &amp; with a smaller footprint than TIME magazine (&amp; only as as thick as the first knuckle on my little finger).</p>
<p>All my other laptops supposedly had a Four hour battery life.  (Ha ha, as IF!)  In reality after a couple of months I was lucky if they didn&#8217;t power down after an hour &amp; a half.  This was annoying on almost any flight.  On top of that they were cumbersome &amp; couldn&#8217;t be opened fully on a tray table, AND they were fragile, so easy to crack the screen or scratch the hard drive, even with all care taken.  I averaged a crash every 18 months.</p>
<p>The smaller ones open so handily on a traytable, &amp; processing speed is not so much an issue when typing in Excel, Word or Outlook Express, however battery life IS an issue.  I DO get Nine hours battery life from the cute little Sony Vaio, this despite the salemen all telling me that Five hours is all one can expect.  In in airport lounge, connected to the net wirelessly, and having to brighten the screen just to see it, I get about Five hours.</p>
<p>There is nothing like 7 or 8 hours uninterrupted typing on an international leg to get all letter writing &amp; just about any other typing obligation out of the way.  Though this can set you up to be a bit weary if you have to hit the ground running upon arrival.</p>
<p>My Vaio was $4,500 it is going to outlast at least 4 x $1,000-$1,500 laptops.</p>
<p>Depends on your budget, if upfront money is not an object, buy the lightest thing you can.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-238979</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have with the Macbook Air is the lack of a battery that can be replaced by the user. Often when on the road it is very useful to have a spare battery to use in emergency situations. Unfortunately you don&#039;t have this option with the Air.

1.2 GHz is definitely not fast enough for me.

Oh, and I spruiked the Lenovo above, however is costs about twice as much as the Air and it isn&#039;t actually released yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have with the Macbook Air is the lack of a battery that can be replaced by the user. Often when on the road it is very useful to have a spare battery to use in emergency situations. Unfortunately you don&#8217;t have this option with the Air.</p>
<p>1.2 GHz is definitely not fast enough for me.</p>
<p>Oh, and I spruiked the Lenovo above, however is costs about twice as much as the Air and it isn&#8217;t actually released yet.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-238968</link>
		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s an option, and you&#039;re determined to get the R500, then that&#039;d be the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s an option, and you&#8217;re determined to get the R500, then that&#8217;d be the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-238966</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://laptopsinc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&amp;Product_Code=R500-S5001X&amp;Category_Code=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It seems I can get the R500 shipped with XP. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://laptopsinc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&#038;Product_Code=R500-S5001X&#038;Category_Code=">It seems I can get the R500 shipped with XP. </a></p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/02/17/ultralight-bleg/#comment-238963</link>
		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas Gruen Says:&lt;blockquote&gt;

The review says that its got a duo 1.2GHz processor. Isnt that a reasonable speed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not really. 

I&#039;ve currently got two laptops that I use regularly, but for diffent purposes and in different situations.

The older one has a single 1.6 GHz processor, and runs Windows XP.

The newer one has duo 1.8 GHz processors, and runs Windows Vista. The newer one is irritatingly slow compared to the older one, and I try to avoid using the new one where possible. 

The difference is caused by Windows Vista, of course, and not by the hardware. The thing is, the overhead imposed by Vista is &lt;i&gt;severe&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas Gruen Says:<br />
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<p>The review says that its got a duo 1.2GHz processor. Isnt that a reasonable speed.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not really. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve currently got two laptops that I use regularly, but for diffent purposes and in different situations.</p>
<p>The older one has a single 1.6 GHz processor, and runs Windows XP.</p>
<p>The newer one has duo 1.8 GHz processors, and runs Windows Vista. The newer one is irritatingly slow compared to the older one, and I try to avoid using the new one where possible. </p>
<p>The difference is caused by Windows Vista, of course, and not by the hardware. The thing is, the overhead imposed by Vista is <i>severe</i>.</p>
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