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		<title>By: Mangled Thoughts &#187; CIS, to buttress its position, has rented a fan club</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-248338</link>
		<dc:creator>Mangled Thoughts &#187; CIS, to buttress its position, has rented a fan club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I see and so did Farrel. Farrel was slightly reluctantly to be Soon&#8217;s patsy, but he did chip in on the troppo leftists&#8217; site with this odd bit of mummery: James Farrell said:  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I see and so did Farrel. Farrel was slightly reluctantly to be Soon&#8217;s patsy, but he did chip in on the troppo leftists&#8217; site with this odd bit of mummery: James Farrell said:  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-246112</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jackson about carbon taxes and global warming.  Meanwhile, James Farrell effects a much more succinct comment box demolition of Jackson&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jackson about carbon taxes and global warming.  Meanwhile, James Farrell effects a much more succinct comment box demolition of Jackson&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sinclair Davidson</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-246013</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinclair Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. I've typed 'Sincliar' myself a few times, so I know it happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. I&#8217;ve typed &#8216;Sincliar&#8217; myself a few times, so I know it happens.</p>
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		<title>By: James Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245904</link>
		<dc:creator>James Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, it's the very sincerity of Sinclair's statements that makes them remarkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, it&#8217;s the very sincerity of Sinclair&#8217;s statements that makes them remarkable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245861</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I perpetrated a typo in today's ML where I spelled "blog" as "bog". I'm prepared to concede that that may have its Freudian overtones, but I'm sure that isn't true of Sinclair's name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I perpetrated a typo in today&#8217;s ML where I spelled &#8220;blog&#8221; as &#8220;bog&#8221;. I&#8217;m prepared to concede that that may have its Freudian overtones, but I&#8217;m sure that isn&#8217;t true of Sinclair&#8217;s name.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinclair Davidson</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245850</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinclair Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty funny though.

Sir Arnold Plant is very under-appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty funny though.</p>
<p>Sir Arnold Plant is very under-appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: James Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245827</link>
		<dc:creator>James Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was inadvertent, I swear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was inadvertent, I swear.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinclair Davidson</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245815</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinclair Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t feel like commenting at Catallaxy as long as naked insults and ridicule are acceptable there.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;propogated also by Sincliar in another context &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe there were other spelling mistakes in James' post at #26, but I didn't see them.   :)

James, you left out Smith, and Schumpeter, and von Mises, and Hayek. At the very least... Alchian, Demsetz, Buchanan, Coase...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t feel like commenting at Catallaxy as long as naked insults and ridicule are acceptable there.
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<blockquote><p>propogated also by Sincliar in another context </p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe there were other spelling mistakes in James&#8217; post at #26, but I didn&#8217;t see them.   <img src='http://clubtroppo.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>James, you left out Smith, and Schumpeter, and von Mises, and Hayek. At the very least&#8230; Alchian, Demsetz, Buchanan, Coase&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: C.L.</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245812</link>
		<dc:creator>C.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ken. I only saw this today (Wednesday, 5/3) - so, no, I wasn't being responsive and must still be considered amongst the disobedient.

#23 Francis, I'll thank you to stop referring to me as a member of Opus Dei (not for the first time) if you don't mind. It conveys nothing but your own prejudice towards non-kumbaya Catholics. Moreover, I dare say you know more people keen on S&#38;M gear than I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ken. I only saw this today (Wednesday, 5/3) - so, no, I wasn&#8217;t being responsive and must still be considered amongst the disobedient.</p>
<p>#23 Francis, I&#8217;ll thank you to stop referring to me as a member of Opus Dei (not for the first time) if you don&#8217;t mind. It conveys nothing but your own prejudice towards non-kumbaya Catholics. Moreover, I dare say you know more people keen on S&amp;M gear than I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Xavier Holden</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245464</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Xavier Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kp said &lt;blockquote&gt;I doubt he’d relish going back to the grind of the Melbourne Bar ..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;While he faced the round eternal of the cash-book and the journal—
    But I doubt he’d suit the office, Clancy, of The Overflow.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let me (or Nabs) know if you want to know more about the relish of the grind at a melbourne bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kp said<br />
<blockquote>I doubt he’d relish going back to the grind of the Melbourne Bar ..</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>While he faced the round eternal of the cash-book and the journal—<br />
    But I doubt he’d suit the office, Clancy, of The Overflow.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let me (or Nabs) know if you want to know more about the relish of the grind at a melbourne bar.</p>
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		<title>By: TimT</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245293</link>
		<dc:creator>TimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops. That should have been by me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops. That should have been by me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245292</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all the blog feuds I've seen - Bahnisch or Lambert vs J F Beck, Iain Hall vs. Jeremy Sear, Tim Blair vs. the world - the mild and civil TonyT vs. FXH stoush is certainly the most entertaining and witty, by a long shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the blog feuds I&#8217;ve seen - Bahnisch or Lambert vs J F Beck, Iain Hall vs. Jeremy Sear, Tim Blair vs. the world - the mild and civil TonyT vs. FXH stoush is certainly the most entertaining and witty, by a long shot.</p>
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		<title>By: James Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245288</link>
		<dc:creator>James Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to Jason at #20:

Thanks for the invitation to join in. I'm just not sure where. The BrookesNews website you linked to doesn't seem to have a comments threads, and I don't feel like commenting at Catallaxy as long as naked insults and ridicule are acceptable there.

In any case, I don't see where 'Keynesianism' comes into it, as far as the carbon tax is concerned. There are really ony two issues. The first is whether there is an externality that needs to be limited by government measures. If Jackson belongs to the shrinking rump of AGW denialists, it's the science he ought be debating with John, not the second, and second-order, issue of what form regulation should take. As far as taxes versus cap-and-and trade is concerned, I'm not much of expert, but the basic micro argument -- that they should have much the same effect -- makes sense to me. I'm assuming that, under cap-and-trade, rights to pollute would be auctioned rather given away to incumbent firms. In that case either scheme would raise a lot of revenue, which would obviously finance a reduction in some other tax. Replacing consumption taxes would be less regressive than replacing income tax, I would have thought, but you probably don't care about that.

Making fossil fuels more expensive will obviously reduce GDP and living standards. But the avenues by which this will happen are captured pretty well in the multi-sector models used by researchers in the area, and the magnitudes of the effects depend on elasticities that are best left to the econometricians. I doubt that Jackson, through his reading of Classical Economics, has stumbled on some avenue that these modellers have overlooked. I didn't try very hard to get to the bottom of what he was saying in that article, but I was struck by the conceit -- propogated also by Sincliar in another context -- that mainstream economists are all labouring under basic logical fallacies that can only be corrected by reading Mill and Say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to Jason at #20:</p>
<p>Thanks for the invitation to join in. I&#8217;m just not sure where. The BrookesNews website you linked to doesn&#8217;t seem to have a comments threads, and I don&#8217;t feel like commenting at Catallaxy as long as naked insults and ridicule are acceptable there.</p>
<p>In any case, I don&#8217;t see where &#8216;Keynesianism&#8217; comes into it, as far as the carbon tax is concerned. There are really ony two issues. The first is whether there is an externality that needs to be limited by government measures. If Jackson belongs to the shrinking rump of AGW denialists, it&#8217;s the science he ought be debating with John, not the second, and second-order, issue of what form regulation should take. As far as taxes versus cap-and-and trade is concerned, I&#8217;m not much of expert, but the basic micro argument &#8212; that they should have much the same effect &#8212; makes sense to me. I&#8217;m assuming that, under cap-and-trade, rights to pollute would be auctioned rather given away to incumbent firms. In that case either scheme would raise a lot of revenue, which would obviously finance a reduction in some other tax. Replacing consumption taxes would be less regressive than replacing income tax, I would have thought, but you probably don&#8217;t care about that.</p>
<p>Making fossil fuels more expensive will obviously reduce GDP and living standards. But the avenues by which this will happen are captured pretty well in the multi-sector models used by researchers in the area, and the magnitudes of the effects depend on elasticities that are best left to the econometricians. I doubt that Jackson, through his reading of Classical Economics, has stumbled on some avenue that these modellers have overlooked. I didn&#8217;t try very hard to get to the bottom of what he was saying in that article, but I was struck by the conceit &#8212; propogated also by Sincliar in another context &#8212; that mainstream economists are all labouring under basic logical fallacies that can only be corrected by reading Mill and Say.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Xavier Holden</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245071</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Xavier Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>christian brothers would have sorted you out Teach. Might have even made a sportsman out of you rather than a spectator. Or more likely made you a litigant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>christian brothers would have sorted you out Teach. Might have even made a sportsman out of you rather than a spectator. Or more likely made you a litigant.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony T</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245053</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word for you, Holden: haitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word for you, Holden: haitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Xavier Holden</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245025</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Xavier Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>homer i hope CL allows comments. Nothing better than to see you getting chastised by a papist. Blogging patriots can't wait to see the numerary whip off his cilice and wrap it around your proddy logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>homer i hope CL allows comments. Nothing better than to see you getting chastised by a papist. Blogging patriots can&#8217;t wait to see the numerary whip off his cilice and wrap it around your proddy logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245023</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just as long as that state is somewhere between Perth and Melbourne and underneath NT.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wash your mouth out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just as long as that state is somewhere between Perth and Melbourne and underneath NT.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wash your mouth out!</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Xavier Holden</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245021</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Xavier Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have always thought Costello would make a good state premier.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

oh thanks saint. Just as long as that state is somewhere between Perth and Melbourne and underneath NT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have always thought Costello would make a good state premier.</p></blockquote>
<p>oh thanks saint. Just as long as that state is somewhere between Perth and Melbourne and underneath NT.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Soon</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-245009</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Soon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Farrel, etc - it would actually be quite interesting for you Keynesians to join the conversation on this as well.

http://www.brookesnews.com/080303capital.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Farrel, etc - it would actually be quite interesting for you Keynesians to join the conversation on this as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.brookesnews.com/080303capital.html" >http://www.brookesnews.com/080303capital.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: gilmae</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/03/03/missing-link-daily-12/#comment-244951</link>
		<dc:creator>gilmae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saint: What do you mean? India won last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saint: What do you mean? India won last night.</p>
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