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		<title>By: Niall</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/04/30/missing-link-daily-52/#comment-267027</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reads to me as if:
(a) Graham has too much money, using a 3G phone to access the internet;
(b) a totally unrealistic expectation of both the internet AND his fellow bloggers;
(c) and something of a rationality disconnect from the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reads to me as if:<br />
(a) Graham has too much money, using a 3G phone to access the internet;<br />
(b) a totally unrealistic expectation of both the internet AND his fellow bloggers;<br />
(c) and something of a rationality disconnect from the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: David Jackmanson</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/04/30/missing-link-daily-52/#comment-266978</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jackmanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, the paragraph that you think I "carefully omitted" clearly places the primary responsibility  on the mainstream media. As do the sentences

"Let’s not pick on the ABC, The Courier Mail and The Brisbane Times had nothing whatever about this incident either.

So, &lt;b&gt;While QR has the primary responsibility to keep its customers informed&lt;/b&gt;, and didn’t - they must have known what the problem was and been able to make an intelligent guess as to how long it would take to fix - &lt;b&gt;the guardians of the public interest also have a duty to get information out despite the incompetencies of the public service."&lt;/b&gt;

(My emphasis)

An article which &lt;i&gt;directly&lt;/i&gt; blames QR, the ABC, the Courier Mail and the Brisbane Times, and, at worst, obliquely mentions bloggers, can't really be said to be blaming bloggers at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, the paragraph that you think I &#8220;carefully omitted&#8221; clearly places the primary responsibility  on the mainstream media. As do the sentences</p>
<p>&#8220;Let’s not pick on the ABC, The Courier Mail and The Brisbane Times had nothing whatever about this incident either.</p>
<p>So, <b>While QR has the primary responsibility to keep its customers informed</b>, and didn’t - they must have known what the problem was and been able to make an intelligent guess as to how long it would take to fix - <b>the guardians of the public interest also have a duty to get information out despite the incompetencies of the public service.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>(My emphasis)</p>
<p>An article which <i>directly</i> blames QR, the ABC, the Courier Mail and the Brisbane Times, and, at worst, obliquely mentions bloggers, can&#8217;t really be said to be blaming bloggers at all.</p>
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		<title>By: gilmae</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/04/30/missing-link-daily-52/#comment-266888</link>
		<dc:creator>gilmae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/me hangs his head in shame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/me hangs his head in shame</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/04/30/missing-link-daily-52/#comment-266883</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that ... err ... ST. Corrected.  I'm afraid I didn't get time to check the decision itself before posting the link to Wasserman's post. Perils of preparing a large daily roundup before breakfast and leaving for work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that &#8230; err &#8230; ST. Corrected.  I&#8217;m afraid I didn&#8217;t get time to check the decision itself before posting the link to Wasserman&#8217;s post. Perils of preparing a large daily roundup before breakfast and leaving for work!</p>
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		<title>By: stumblng tumblr</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/04/30/missing-link-daily-52/#comment-266878</link>
		<dc:creator>stumblng tumblr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Howard Wasserman reports on the first instance rejection of a challenge to the validity of a new Indiana law requiring all voters to produce photo ID before being allowed to vote."

I don't understand what's meant by "first instance". It was a decision of the SCOTUS, on appeal, as I remember, from a decision of the 7th Circuit USCA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Howard Wasserman reports on the first instance rejection of a challenge to the validity of a new Indiana law requiring all voters to produce photo ID before being allowed to vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand what&#8217;s meant by &#8220;first instance&#8221;. It was a decision of the SCOTUS, on appeal, as I remember, from a decision of the 7th Circuit USCA.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/04/30/missing-link-daily-52/#comment-266870</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David

You carefully omitted the passage from Graham's post that led to the characterisation in the primary post:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Citizen journalism is said to have come of age when passengers on the trains blown-up by terrorists in London three years ago emailed photos from their mobile phones to the BBC contradicting the official version of events. In Australia we're still waiting for the media, and perhaps the public, to come of age.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>You carefully omitted the passage from Graham&#8217;s post that led to the characterisation in the primary post:</p>
<blockquote><p>Citizen journalism is said to have come of age when passengers on the trains blown-up by terrorists in London three years ago emailed photos from their mobile phones to the BBC contradicting the official version of events. In Australia we&#8217;re still waiting for the media, and perhaps the public, to come of age.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: David Jackmanson</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/04/30/missing-link-daily-52/#comment-266866</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jackmanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Graham Young blames Brisbane bloggers for failing to tell him why his train was running late!!!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or, in fact, he doesn't.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Living in the 21st Century, troubled by the lack of information, and equipped with a 3G phone, I decided to consult the Internet. Nothing that I could find.

50 minutes later I am still no wiser, yet this event, whatever it was, must have been disrupting trains all over the city as the consequences of not being able to go through Brunswick Station shunted their way down the line. This is information that is much more vital to the average Brisbanite than knowing that the Hale Street Bridge will cost $57 more. At least they're reasonably certain of getting a bridge, whereas who knows whether the trains will get anyone home on time for the evening meal.

Let's not pick on the ABC, The Courier Mail and The Brisbane Times had nothing whatever about this incident either.

So, while QR has the primary responsibility to keep its customers informed, and didn't - they must have known what the problem was and been able to make an intelligent guess as to how long it would take to fix - the guardians of the public interest also have a duty to get information out despite the incompetencies of the public service. 100 years ago it might have been good enough to read about it in the next morning's paper, but today things are much different.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Graham Young blames Brisbane bloggers for failing to tell him why his train was running late!!!</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, in fact, he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<blockquote><p>Living in the 21st Century, troubled by the lack of information, and equipped with a 3G phone, I decided to consult the Internet. Nothing that I could find.</p>
<p>50 minutes later I am still no wiser, yet this event, whatever it was, must have been disrupting trains all over the city as the consequences of not being able to go through Brunswick Station shunted their way down the line. This is information that is much more vital to the average Brisbanite than knowing that the Hale Street Bridge will cost $57 more. At least they&#8217;re reasonably certain of getting a bridge, whereas who knows whether the trains will get anyone home on time for the evening meal.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not pick on the ABC, The Courier Mail and The Brisbane Times had nothing whatever about this incident either.</p>
<p>So, while QR has the primary responsibility to keep its customers informed, and didn&#8217;t - they must have known what the problem was and been able to make an intelligent guess as to how long it would take to fix - the guardians of the public interest also have a duty to get information out despite the incompetencies of the public service. 100 years ago it might have been good enough to read about it in the next morning&#8217;s paper, but today things are much different.</p></blockquote>
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