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	<title>Comments on: Why Lynton Crosby has ruined the London Mayoral elections</title>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seamus C;

Thanks a lot for your insights.

Am I right in supposing that since Labour is now so much on the nose, if Ken Livingstone stood as the Red Marxist Bolshevik Proletariat candidate instead as the Labour candidate, he would still be Lord Mayor Of London?

The presence of an Australian Election .... errrr, "Operator" on the scene does worry me though.   

Does that mean that henceforth whenever Australians front up to Immigration at Heathrow or Gatwick, we will be treated with the same thoroughness as are Nigerian investment consultants, Eastern European virgins, Colombian medicinals wholesalers, Turbanistan crew-served weapons purchasers and smiling gentlemen whose passport details seem to have been typed on two different typewriters?   "Have another cup of tea while you're waiting, Aunt Alice, it might be quite a while before we get through Immigration ...."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seamus C;</p>
<p>Thanks a lot for your insights.</p>
<p>Am I right in supposing that since Labour is now so much on the nose, if Ken Livingstone stood as the Red Marxist Bolshevik Proletariat candidate instead as the Labour candidate, he would still be Lord Mayor Of London?</p>
<p>The presence of an Australian Election &#8230;. errrr, &#8220;Operator&#8221; on the scene does worry me though.   </p>
<p>Does that mean that henceforth whenever Australians front up to Immigration at Heathrow or Gatwick, we will be treated with the same thoroughness as are Nigerian investment consultants, Eastern European virgins, Colombian medicinals wholesalers, Turbanistan crew-served weapons purchasers and smiling gentlemen whose passport details seem to have been typed on two different typewriters?   &#8220;Have another cup of tea while you&#8217;re waiting, Aunt Alice, it might be quite a while before we get through Immigration &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Now is when Boris may really need public relations &#171; Heather Yaxley - Greenbanana views of public relations and more</title>
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		<dc:creator>Now is when Boris may really need public relations &#171; Heather Yaxley - Greenbanana views of public relations and more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 11:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] election strategist, Lynton Crosby is &#8220;credited&#8221; with the tight management of the normally gaff-prone Boris during the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/02/why-lynton-crosby-has-ruined-the-london-mayoral-elections/#comment-267962</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 10:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Geoff, for pointing out the exact context of Boris's picaninnies and watermelon smiles comment. I'm as ready as the next person to have a go at Tony Blair for his overweening ego, and The Coalition of the Willing of which he was part have been able to realise a far more deadly contemporary manifestation of the imperial impulse than Boris and his poor old mates in opposition. Nevertheless, I think Boris was sailing very close to the wind in terms of the language he used to have a go at Blair. Did he or did he not think that these countries had seen aeroplanes before? It's all too hard to tell - which is precisely Boris's escape route.

I pointed to him being an imperialist, not mentioning his 'multi-culti' (as you so cutely refer to to it) credentials. Pointing out that someone has antecedents in the ottoman EMPIRE, of all things, hardly absolves them from my claim. 

Anyhow, as for his 'multi-culti' credentials, he's on the record for not being pro-multi-culti, but (as far as I can tell) he'd rather everyone fell about at Carry On movies.

And David, London politics is fascinating. I began following Ken's career back int the mid-1980s when he had transformed himself into a professional, full-time politician, which was a rare thing for local councillors. His tenure at the GLC ws interesting, but he was defamed and dismissed by the tabloids as the epitome of the "Loony Left" and as representing everything that was making Labour unelectable. 

This was demonology. If you'd asked Ken in the mid 1980s what would be his preferred agenda for an incoming Labour government, he would have said something like: "abolish hereditary peerages; invite the leadership of the IRA to Downing Street for peace talks; launch an inquiry into the institutional racism of the Metropolitan police force". And he would have been dismissed as the "Loony Left" by the tabloids trying to generate a moral panic. But what did Tony Blair and "moderate" New Labour do in their first term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Geoff, for pointing out the exact context of Boris&#8217;s picaninnies and watermelon smiles comment. I&#8217;m as ready as the next person to have a go at Tony Blair for his overweening ego, and The Coalition of the Willing of which he was part have been able to realise a far more deadly contemporary manifestation of the imperial impulse than Boris and his poor old mates in opposition. Nevertheless, I think Boris was sailing very close to the wind in terms of the language he used to have a go at Blair. Did he or did he not think that these countries had seen aeroplanes before? It&#8217;s all too hard to tell - which is precisely Boris&#8217;s escape route.</p>
<p>I pointed to him being an imperialist, not mentioning his &#8216;multi-culti&#8217; (as you so cutely refer to to it) credentials. Pointing out that someone has antecedents in the ottoman EMPIRE, of all things, hardly absolves them from my claim. </p>
<p>Anyhow, as for his &#8216;multi-culti&#8217; credentials, he&#8217;s on the record for not being pro-multi-culti, but (as far as I can tell) he&#8217;d rather everyone fell about at Carry On movies.</p>
<p>And David, London politics is fascinating. I began following Ken&#8217;s career back int the mid-1980s when he had transformed himself into a professional, full-time politician, which was a rare thing for local councillors. His tenure at the GLC ws interesting, but he was defamed and dismissed by the tabloids as the epitome of the &#8220;Loony Left&#8221; and as representing everything that was making Labour unelectable. </p>
<p>This was demonology. If you&#8217;d asked Ken in the mid 1980s what would be his preferred agenda for an incoming Labour government, he would have said something like: &#8220;abolish hereditary peerages; invite the leadership of the IRA to Downing Street for peace talks; launch an inquiry into the institutional racism of the Metropolitan police force&#8221;. And he would have been dismissed as the &#8220;Loony Left&#8221; by the tabloids trying to generate a moral panic. But what did Tony Blair and &#8220;moderate&#8221; New Labour do in their first term?</p>
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		<title>By: david tiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>david tiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 05:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Crooked Timber &lt;/a&gt; has brought out the blogosphere's &lt;a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/200804300002" rel="nofollow"&gt;equivalent of the elephant gun&lt;/a&gt; on the bastard's hide - a lump of fine New Statesman invective. Whether it is loaded with lead or bits of old macaroni is up to you and the future. 

I am inclined to the "evil toad" theory myself, but then I think London politics is the place where the Empire went to die, like a sick cat which finally ate a poisoned stoat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2008/05/02/waiting-for-boris/" >Crooked Timber </a> has brought out the blogosphere&#8217;s <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/200804300002" >equivalent of the elephant gun</a> on the bastard&#8217;s hide - a lump of fine New Statesman invective. Whether it is loaded with lead or bits of old macaroni is up to you and the future. </p>
<p>I am inclined to the &#8220;evil toad&#8221; theory myself, but then I think London politics is the place where the Empire went to die, like a sick cat which finally ate a poisoned stoat.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris Johnson (as channelled by Jack Greenfield)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris Johnson (as channelled by Jack Greenfield)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 04:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say chaps, damn fine show. That pillock pondlife Red Ken thrust his fin at me in congratulations. Blast, one has little time for high-jinx as there is much to do. First up we need a jolly good clean out of all the wops and their feral picaninnies befouling the streets of Old Blighty with their droppings. My first decree is the free distribution of plastic gloves to all parents of picaninnies. The next is to excise all the - rotten - boroughs outside the Royal Borough. An exchange with Brittany would be just the ticket. 

So too all you Luvvies who helped rid us of the Red Terror (well he's not such a bad egg after all), I say take up The Burden with me! Tally Ho!



&lt;i&gt;Take up the White Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go, bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait, in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say chaps, damn fine show. That pillock pondlife Red Ken thrust his fin at me in congratulations. Blast, one has little time for high-jinx as there is much to do. First up we need a jolly good clean out of all the wops and their feral picaninnies befouling the streets of Old Blighty with their droppings. My first decree is the free distribution of plastic gloves to all parents of picaninnies. The next is to excise all the - rotten - boroughs outside the Royal Borough. An exchange with Brittany would be just the ticket. </p>
<p>So too all you Luvvies who helped rid us of the Red Terror (well he&#8217;s not such a bad egg after all), I say take up The Burden with me! Tally Ho!</p>
<p><i>Take up the White Man&#8217;s burden&#8211;<br />
Send forth the best ye breed&#8211;<br />
Go, bind your sons to exile<br />
To serve your captives&#8217; need;<br />
To wait, in heavy harness,<br />
On fluttered folk and wild&#8211;<br />
Your new-caught sullen peoples,<br />
Half devil and half child.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Honnor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Honnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony, the much quoted racist attack on Africans was actually an attack on Tony Blair: 


"For ages, it seems, Supertone has been orbiting in his taxpayer-funded jet, descending to bring his particular brand of humbug to the trouble spots of the world. He did the namaste in Bangalore, and lo, the warring faiths of the Indian subcontinent immediately rescheduled World War Three. For a full 120 minutes, he and Cherie shone the light of their countenances upon the people of Afghanistan, and, who knows, perhaps the place is now rife with feminism, habeas corpus and multi-party democracy... They say he is shortly off to the Congo. No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird. Like Zeus, back there in the Iliad, he has turned his shining eyes away, far over the lands of the Hippemolgoi, the drinkers of mares’ milk.”"

The "Big White Chief" reference is presumably about his perception of Blair's ego rather than "an attitude that encapsulates all the vicious arrogance - or arrogant viciousness - of 19th century colonialism." 

And Boris is actually the great grandson of a Turkish journalist who was briefly an Ottoman empire minister. Can't get more multi-culti than that.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, the much quoted racist attack on Africans was actually an attack on Tony Blair: </p>
<p>&#8220;For ages, it seems, Supertone has been orbiting in his taxpayer-funded jet, descending to bring his particular brand of humbug to the trouble spots of the world. He did the namaste in Bangalore, and lo, the warring faiths of the Indian subcontinent immediately rescheduled World War Three. For a full 120 minutes, he and Cherie shone the light of their countenances upon the people of Afghanistan, and, who knows, perhaps the place is now rife with feminism, habeas corpus and multi-party democracy&#8230; They say he is shortly off to the Congo. No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird. Like Zeus, back there in the Iliad, he has turned his shining eyes away, far over the lands of the Hippemolgoi, the drinkers of mares’ milk.”&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;Big White Chief&#8221; reference is presumably about his perception of Blair&#8217;s ego rather than &#8220;an attitude that encapsulates all the vicious arrogance - or arrogant viciousness - of 19th century colonialism.&#8221; </p>
<p>And Boris is actually the great grandson of a Turkish journalist who was briefly an Ottoman empire minister. Can&#8217;t get more multi-culti than that&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that Boris! But he didn't just refer to black people as 'picaninnies' but went on to say something along the lines of "the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird". It's an attitude that encapsulates all the vicious arrogance - or arrogant viciousness - of 19th century colonialism. The man is a dangerous racist wastrel and slob. And I say that more out of sadness than anger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that Boris! But he didn&#8217;t just refer to black people as &#8216;picaninnies&#8217; but went on to say something along the lines of &#8220;the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird&#8221;. It&#8217;s an attitude that encapsulates all the vicious arrogance - or arrogant viciousness - of 19th century colonialism. The man is a dangerous racist wastrel and slob. And I say that more out of sadness than anger</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris has been de-funned, you're right. Mind you, if he gets elected, the funnster will return in full force. Crosby can't micromanage the Mayor of London... surely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris has been de-funned, you&#8217;re right. Mind you, if he gets elected, the funnster will return in full force. Crosby can&#8217;t micromanage the Mayor of London&#8230; surely.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think the Crosby/Textor genius thing has been overrated.  Sure, on paper,  J-Ho was unelectable:  unnattractive physically, reactionary, conservative to a fault.  Given the 1983-1996 history of Australia, you'd have thought he'd have as much chance of winning an election as Simon Crean.

However, that whole "underdog" thing was far, far more important than any supposed genius on the part of Crosby/Textor or that odious bloke who used to run the PM's department who I've intentionally forgotten.

Aussies love a good underdog story, they really do.  Look at the election results from 1996 onwards - really pretty close every time.  Australians felt sorry for the feisty little bloke.  He was up against it his whole life with Peacock, Joh for PM, Hanson, terry-wrists, darkies on leaky boats who were dangerously republican and the constant threat of Costello threatening to stomp out of the room crying in a huff.  The pressure must have been immense on those puny shoulders, so when he lifted the begging bowl and begged "please sir, can I have some more" the population obliged until the pot of sympathy was empty.

It's pretty clear that, instead of being an effective campaigner, Crosby is basically just an opportunist with no ideas and a fixed formula that just happened to coincide with success.  He sure didn't cause that success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think the Crosby/Textor genius thing has been overrated.  Sure, on paper,  J-Ho was unelectable:  unnattractive physically, reactionary, conservative to a fault.  Given the 1983-1996 history of Australia, you&#8217;d have thought he&#8217;d have as much chance of winning an election as Simon Crean.</p>
<p>However, that whole &#8220;underdog&#8221; thing was far, far more important than any supposed genius on the part of Crosby/Textor or that odious bloke who used to run the PM&#8217;s department who I&#8217;ve intentionally forgotten.</p>
<p>Aussies love a good underdog story, they really do.  Look at the election results from 1996 onwards - really pretty close every time.  Australians felt sorry for the feisty little bloke.  He was up against it his whole life with Peacock, Joh for PM, Hanson, terry-wrists, darkies on leaky boats who were dangerously republican and the constant threat of Costello threatening to stomp out of the room crying in a huff.  The pressure must have been immense on those puny shoulders, so when he lifted the begging bowl and begged &#8220;please sir, can I have some more&#8221; the population obliged until the pot of sympathy was empty.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty clear that, instead of being an effective campaigner, Crosby is basically just an opportunist with no ideas and a fixed formula that just happened to coincide with success.  He sure didn&#8217;t cause that success.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite like what I've seen of Boris Johnson -- the unashamedly erudite smartarse, in love with the theatrics of politics and with a highly developed sense of the ridiculous. He reminds me very much of a colleague from my student politics days, the Tomato Sauce Target, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Ward" rel="nofollow"&gt;Clr Gareth Ward&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like what I&#8217;ve seen of Boris Johnson &#8212; the unashamedly erudite smartarse, in love with the theatrics of politics and with a highly developed sense of the ridiculous. He reminds me very much of a colleague from my student politics days, the Tomato Sauce Target, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Ward" >Clr Gareth Ward</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had any mirth resulted, I might believe you John - for unintended is the only sort I've ever known you to cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had any mirth resulted, I might believe you John - for unintended is the only sort I&#8217;ve ever known you to cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Enoch Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enoch Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDB

This is a promising sign. For you see, mirth was not the intended effect.</description>
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<p>This is a promising sign. For you see, mirth was not the intended effect.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wasn't funny at LP either, Greenfield.</description>
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		<title>By: Enoch Powell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/02/why-lynton-crosby-has-ruined-the-london-mayoral-elections/#comment-267592</link>
		<dc:creator>Enoch Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has lived in London for many years, I vote that Boris Johnson would be a godsend. A refreshing recrudescence of real Englishness - in all its irreverence, eccentricty, and unashamed rudeness -  amidst the mire of po-faced multiculti philistine Luvvieness that has gripped London over the past decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has lived in London for many years, I vote that Boris Johnson would be a godsend. A refreshing recrudescence of real Englishness - in all its irreverence, eccentricty, and unashamed rudeness -  amidst the mire of po-faced multiculti philistine Luvvieness that has gripped London over the past decade.</p>
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		<title>By: Enoch Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enoch Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was right all along, you see Luvvies. Tally Ho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was right all along, you see Luvvies. Tally Ho</p>
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