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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-272176</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, forgot about the &quot;pledges only&quot; thing for this thread but anyway it was ACFID who held the press conference.
http://www.acfid.asn.au/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, forgot about the &#8220;pledges only&#8221; thing for this thread but anyway it was ACFID who held the press conference.<br />
<a href="http://www.acfid.asn.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.acfid.asn.au/</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-272169</link>
		<dc:creator>James Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 08:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Amanda. I&#039;ll look  into it, and also see what I can find out via email. Ken reports that he hasn&#039;t had a response yet from CARE.

In the meantime, the deadline for the Troppo-Quiggin dollar-for-dollar offer has passed. But of course anyone who wishes to announce further contributions of their own is encouraged to do so. Philanthropic competition is healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Amanda. I&#8217;ll look  into it, and also see what I can find out via email. Ken reports that he hasn&#8217;t had a response yet from CARE.</p>
<p>In the meantime, the deadline for the Troppo-Quiggin dollar-for-dollar offer has passed. But of course anyone who wishes to announce further contributions of their own is encouraged to do so. Philanthropic competition is healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-272168</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 08:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The aid orgs had a press conference today to outline their programmes on the ground (&quot;in country&quot; seems to be the lingo) and stress that donations would make a difference, save lives, get to the right people etc etc so I guess many must be expressing the same reservations as Patrick, and ultimately making the same decision.  

They did say the amount raised so far was about $3.5m, which was only the six agencies there -- which didn&#039;t include World Vision -- or govt contributions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The aid orgs had a press conference today to outline their programmes on the ground (&#8220;in country&#8221; seems to be the lingo) and stress that donations would make a difference, save lives, get to the right people etc etc so I guess many must be expressing the same reservations as Patrick, and ultimately making the same decision.  </p>
<p>They did say the amount raised so far was about $3.5m, which was only the six agencies there &#8212; which didn&#8217;t include World Vision &#8212; or govt contributions.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-271970</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$100 to MSF, but I can&#039;t send you proof because I am a luddite and have sent off a cheque. No, really, I don&#039;t own a credit card!

(Bpay rocks, but MSF doesn&#039;t have it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$100 to MSF, but I can&#8217;t send you proof because I am a luddite and have sent off a cheque. No, really, I don&#8217;t own a credit card!</p>
<p>(Bpay rocks, but MSF doesn&#8217;t have it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-271830</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to donate via my work, who will match dollar-for-dollar and deduct it from my pay, but frankly I got cold feet because I started to have serious doubts that the money would be permitted to do any good. The longer I wait the stronger the doubt.

I think I will give the money to a foundation for the homeless that my work also supports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to donate via my work, who will match dollar-for-dollar and deduct it from my pay, but frankly I got cold feet because I started to have serious doubts that the money would be permitted to do any good. The longer I wait the stronger the doubt.</p>
<p>I think I will give the money to a foundation for the homeless that my work also supports.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-271701</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
$90 to World Vision - I&#039;ve emailed you the confirmation.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
$90 to World Vision &#8211; I&#8217;ve emailed you the confirmation.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: CFQ</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-271542</link>
		<dc:creator>CFQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent initiative, Troppo. $100 to Medecins Sans Frontieres.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent initiative, Troppo. $100 to Medecins Sans Frontieres.</p>
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		<title>By: Abby Imhoff</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-271407</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby Imhoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 05:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James, 

My friends and I have donated $1750 to a small group in Yangon that is assisting victims of Nargis. I will email you the details.
Thanks, 

Abby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James, </p>
<p>My friends and I have donated $1750 to a small group in Yangon that is assisting victims of Nargis. I will email you the details.<br />
Thanks, </p>
<p>Abby</p>
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		<title>By: Abby Imhoff</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-271406</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby Imhoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 05:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James, 

My friends and I have donated $1750 to a small group in Yangon that is working to get food, water and assistance to victims of Nargis. I will email you the details. 

Thanks, 

Abby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James, </p>
<p>My friends and I have donated $1750 to a small group in Yangon that is working to get food, water and assistance to victims of Nargis. I will email you the details. </p>
<p>Thanks, </p>
<p>Abby</p>
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		<title>By: David Hooke</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-271115</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

$200 to MSF. 

d.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>$200 to MSF. </p>
<p>d.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270869</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James

$i00.00 to CARE Australia.

Margaret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James</p>
<p>$i00.00 to CARE Australia.</p>
<p>Margaret</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Rumble</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270828</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Rumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ambiguous: or another method of avoiding them, don&#039;t give to organisations that are willing to throw away vast amounts of donations on overhead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ambiguous: or another method of avoiding them, don&#8217;t give to organisations that are willing to throw away vast amounts of donations on overhead.</p>
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		<title>By: ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270826</link>
		<dc:creator>ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 06:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m making a small donation to this worthy cause. Will send details privately.

Simon Rumble, there&#039;s a way around those &quot;muggers&quot; who approach people on city streets to join up: find a local group (in the case of Amnesty) or try the website of the charity. I agree: cut out the middle man [or the middle backpacker ;-) ]

cheerio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m making a small donation to this worthy cause. Will send details privately.</p>
<p>Simon Rumble, there&#8217;s a way around those &#8220;muggers&#8221; who approach people on city streets to join up: find a local group (in the case of Amnesty) or try the website of the charity. I agree: cut out the middle man [or the middle backpacker <img src='http://clubtroppo.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
<p>cheerio</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Rumble</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270718</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Rumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 23:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NPOV wrote: &lt;blockquote&gt;I prefer to donate money to those that make an effort to convince me that their cause is worthwhile!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The issue for me is that many of these charity mugging companies take as much as the first year of direct debit donations as their fee for signing up the donator!  If you&#039;re worried about money actually getting to those in need, this should make you very suspicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NPOV wrote:<br />
<blockquote>I prefer to donate money to those that make an effort to convince me that their cause is worthwhile!</p></blockquote>
<p>The issue for me is that many of these charity mugging companies take as much as the first year of direct debit donations as their fee for signing up the donator!  If you&#8217;re worried about money actually getting to those in need, this should make you very suspicious.</p>
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		<title>By: jbq</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270405</link>
		<dc:creator>jbq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 21:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avaaz.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Avaaz&lt;/a&gt; is bypassing the SLORC (or whatever they call themselves these days) by going through the monks. From my experience in Burma (spelt BURMA) it would seem this has a fair chance of going where it should.

Donated $100 through avaaz.

Thanks for what you&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.avaaz.org" rel="nofollow">Avaaz</a> is bypassing the SLORC (or whatever they call themselves these days) by going through the monks. From my experience in Burma (spelt BURMA) it would seem this has a fair chance of going where it should.</p>
<p>Donated $100 through avaaz.</p>
<p>Thanks for what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: jbq</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270400</link>
		<dc:creator>jbq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 21:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avaaz at http://www.avaaz.org is bypassing the SLORC (or whatever they call themselves these days) by going  through the monks. From my experience in Burma (spelt BURMA) it would seem this has a fair chance of going where it should.

Donated $100 through avaaz.

Thanks for what you&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avaaz at <a href="http://www.avaaz.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.avaaz.org</a> is bypassing the SLORC (or whatever they call themselves these days) by going  through the monks. From my experience in Burma (spelt BURMA) it would seem this has a fair chance of going where it should.</p>
<p>Donated $100 through avaaz.</p>
<p>Thanks for what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe D</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270365</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all for doing this. $50 from me to World Vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for doing this. $50 from me to World Vision.</p>
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		<title>By: James Farrell</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270259</link>
		<dc:creator>James Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of whether aid organizations use money efficiently is an important one,  but I&#039;d like to reserve this thread for pledges, please. Thanks to everyone who contributed so far, including those who did so by email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of whether aid organizations use money efficiently is an important one,  but I&#8217;d like to reserve this thread for pledges, please. Thanks to everyone who contributed so far, including those who did so by email.</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270242</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 06:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, NPOV, I don&#039;t believe the guff that Patrick clearly does. End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, NPOV, I don&#8217;t believe the guff that Patrick clearly does. End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: daiskmeliadorn</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270233</link>
		<dc:creator>daiskmeliadorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 06:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can i suggest &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tear.org.au/projects/emergencies/burma-cyclone-relief/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TEAR australia&lt;/a&gt;. they also have people already working with partner agencies in burma so that should help the money actually get through. 


like world vision, TEAR is a christian organisation; if you don&#039;t mind that, i think their approach and practice is quite good. they are known for the &#039;worlds most useful gifts&#039; catalogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can i suggest <a href="http://www.tear.org.au/projects/emergencies/burma-cyclone-relief/" rel="nofollow">TEAR australia</a>. they also have people already working with partner agencies in burma so that should help the money actually get through. </p>
<p>like world vision, TEAR is a christian organisation; if you don&#8217;t mind that, i think their approach and practice is quite good. they are known for the &#8216;worlds most useful gifts&#8217; catalogue.</p>
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		<title>By: NPOV</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270178</link>
		<dc:creator>NPOV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niall, that&#039;s a bit silly - do you really think you can run a charity where every single penny donated goes directly to those who need it?  10% overhead for admin/fund-raising etc. seems pretty reasonable to me.

As far as the &quot;throwing money&quot; argument goes - you&#039;re right that it won&#039;t fix Burma&#039;s long standing issues with poverty and a lack of democracy, but when it&#039;s a case of lives being saved and infrastructure being rebuilt after a natural disaster, then money is pretty obviously going to be needed.  If you don&#039;t have the cash to spare, then just leave it at that.  No-one&#039;s going to criticise you for not giving what you don&#039;t have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niall, that&#8217;s a bit silly &#8211; do you really think you can run a charity where every single penny donated goes directly to those who need it?  10% overhead for admin/fund-raising etc. seems pretty reasonable to me.</p>
<p>As far as the &#8220;throwing money&#8221; argument goes &#8211; you&#8217;re right that it won&#8217;t fix Burma&#8217;s long standing issues with poverty and a lack of democracy, but when it&#8217;s a case of lives being saved and infrastructure being rebuilt after a natural disaster, then money is pretty obviously going to be needed.  If you don&#8217;t have the cash to spare, then just leave it at that.  No-one&#8217;s going to criticise you for not giving what you don&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270176</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, my opinion stands. You make some high falutin link to two out of how many charity organisations, which clearly define that not every dollar goes where it needs to. Who&#039;s the dill here, hmmm? I&#039;m glad your salary has risen 40%, Bully for you, old cock. Mine hasn&#039;t risen for 12 years. You want a pissing contest over money to spare? You&#039;ve already won. I don&#039;t have the cash to spare, and even if I did, I don&#039;t believe throwing money at issues like Burma is the solution to a much broader problem. Don&#039;t go criticising me because I don&#039;t meet your ideological expectations. You&#039;ll note I stated I&#039;m not criticising yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, my opinion stands. You make some high falutin link to two out of how many charity organisations, which clearly define that not every dollar goes where it needs to. Who&#8217;s the dill here, hmmm? I&#8217;m glad your salary has risen 40%, Bully for you, old cock. Mine hasn&#8217;t risen for 12 years. You want a pissing contest over money to spare? You&#8217;ve already won. I don&#8217;t have the cash to spare, and even if I did, I don&#8217;t believe throwing money at issues like Burma is the solution to a much broader problem. Don&#8217;t go criticising me because I don&#8217;t meet your ideological expectations. You&#8217;ll note I stated I&#8217;m not criticising yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270062</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea. I&#039;ve made a donation - MSF, thanks for the recommendation, and I&#039;ll send you an email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea. I&#8217;ve made a donation &#8211; MSF, thanks for the recommendation, and I&#8217;ll send you an email.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270060</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/send-aid-not-foreigners-burmas-junta/2008/05/09/1210131224901.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This story&lt;/a&gt; is a bit of a worry, however:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Burma today said it was not ready to let in foreign aid workers, rejecting international pressure to allow experts into the isolated nation where disease and starvation are stalking cyclone survivors.

One week after the devastating storm killed tens of thousands, Burma&#039;s ruling generals - deeply suspicious of the outside world - said the country needed outside aid for those still alive but would deliver it themselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Charities which succumb to this pressure and simply give aid to the Burma junta for distribution would simply be putting it into the pockets of the generals and their supporters, which is certainly something I&#039;m not prepared to do.  The CARE Australia website, however, states that it has 500 aid workers in Burma in any event, so presumably it will be distributing aid through them direct to the people who need it, rather than simply giving it to the regime.  Nevertheless I&#039;ve emailed CARE and I&#039;ll convey any response I receive. I&#039;m not myself going to hand over my pledged donation until I&#039;m reasonably sure that it will reach people in need and not be stolen by their oppressors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/send-aid-not-foreigners-burmas-junta/2008/05/09/1210131224901.html" rel="nofollow">This story</a> is a bit of a worry, however:</p>
<blockquote><p>Burma today said it was not ready to let in foreign aid workers, rejecting international pressure to allow experts into the isolated nation where disease and starvation are stalking cyclone survivors.</p>
<p>One week after the devastating storm killed tens of thousands, Burma&#8217;s ruling generals &#8211; deeply suspicious of the outside world &#8211; said the country needed outside aid for those still alive but would deliver it themselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>Charities which succumb to this pressure and simply give aid to the Burma junta for distribution would simply be putting it into the pockets of the generals and their supporters, which is certainly something I&#8217;m not prepared to do.  The CARE Australia website, however, states that it has 500 aid workers in Burma in any event, so presumably it will be distributing aid through them direct to the people who need it, rather than simply giving it to the regime.  Nevertheless I&#8217;ve emailed CARE and I&#8217;ll convey any response I receive. I&#8217;m not myself going to hand over my pledged donation until I&#8217;m reasonably sure that it will reach people in need and not be stolen by their oppressors.</p>
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		<title>By: patrickg</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/05/09/joint-myanmar-appeal/#comment-270049</link>
		<dc:creator>patrickg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 10:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Im not one to blithely commit my hard earned to seemingly bureaucratic organisations which use more than half of all donations to keep themselves fluid.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You got some references there Niall, cause it sounds to me you like don&#039;t know shit about charities and international aid organisations to be honest.

To be classified as a charity in Australia there are some very strict reporting requirements.

Furthermore, the organisations recommended are very up front about where the money goes, e.g:

&lt;a href=&quot;What are CARE Australia&#039;s administration overheads?Over the last eight years around 90 per cent of our total income from the Australian public and all other sources has been spent on work in the field, rather than on administration overheads.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Care: What are CARE Australia&#039;s administration overheads?
Over the last eight years around 90 per cent of our total income from the Australian public and all other sources has been spent on work in the field, rather than on administration overheads.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msf.org.au/support/index.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSF: 5% admin, 13% fundraising, 82% programme activities.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oxfam.org.au/about/faq.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Oxfam: Where does the money go?&lt;/a&gt;
Oxfam Australia&#039;s management standards stipulate that a minimum of 85% of funds raised froe programs. The remaining 15% covers costs associated with advertising and promoting our appeals, operating our toll free phone room, processing and receipting donations and audit and financial accountability costs associated with verifying expenditure of these funds in our annual accounts.

For all other appeals, 81 cents in every dollar donated goes directly to our program work overseas and in Australia. 5 cents is spent on administration and reserves, while 14 cents is used to increase donated income through marketing and fundraising. m all our emergency appeals must be used directly for our emergency response.

And that&#039;s just for starters. If you don&#039;t want to donate, that&#039;s cool, but don&#039;t dress it up in some kind of ethical concern about where the money goes, that&#039;s total bullshit, and ignorant in the extreme.

As someone who has worked, and had a long term interest in the aid sector, this is a commonly held preconception often used as a convenient foil to avoid feeling guilty, and it really irritates me. People in aid agencies work incredibly hard, for far less than they should be getting paid (a &#039;donation&#039; most of us would shudder to comprehend; when I moved out of the NGO sector, my salary went up &lt;b&gt;40%&lt;/b&gt;) - sometimes for nothing at all. 

It&#039;s very easy to ascertain whether a charity is good or not. I suggest you educate yourself about it before making anymore sweeping assumptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Im not one to blithely commit my hard earned to seemingly bureaucratic organisations which use more than half of all donations to keep themselves fluid.</p></blockquote>
<p>You got some references there Niall, cause it sounds to me you like don&#8217;t know shit about charities and international aid organisations to be honest.</p>
<p>To be classified as a charity in Australia there are some very strict reporting requirements.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the organisations recommended are very up front about where the money goes, e.g:</p>
<p><a href="What are CARE Australia's administration overheads?Over the last eight years around 90 per cent of our total income from the Australian public and all other sources has been spent on work in the field, rather than on administration overheads." rel="nofollow">Care: What are CARE Australia&#8217;s administration overheads?<br />
Over the last eight years around 90 per cent of our total income from the Australian public and all other sources has been spent on work in the field, rather than on administration overheads.</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.msf.org.au/support/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">MSF: 5% admin, 13% fundraising, 82% programme activities.</a><br />
<a href="http://www.oxfam.org.au/about/faq.html" rel="nofollow"><br />
Oxfam: Where does the money go?</a><br />
Oxfam Australia&#8217;s management standards stipulate that a minimum of 85% of funds raised froe programs. The remaining 15% covers costs associated with advertising and promoting our appeals, operating our toll free phone room, processing and receipting donations and audit and financial accountability costs associated with verifying expenditure of these funds in our annual accounts.</p>
<p>For all other appeals, 81 cents in every dollar donated goes directly to our program work overseas and in Australia. 5 cents is spent on administration and reserves, while 14 cents is used to increase donated income through marketing and fundraising. m all our emergency appeals must be used directly for our emergency response.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just for starters. If you don&#8217;t want to donate, that&#8217;s cool, but don&#8217;t dress it up in some kind of ethical concern about where the money goes, that&#8217;s total bullshit, and ignorant in the extreme.</p>
<p>As someone who has worked, and had a long term interest in the aid sector, this is a commonly held preconception often used as a convenient foil to avoid feeling guilty, and it really irritates me. People in aid agencies work incredibly hard, for far less than they should be getting paid (a &#8216;donation&#8217; most of us would shudder to comprehend; when I moved out of the NGO sector, my salary went up <b>40%</b>) &#8211; sometimes for nothing at all. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s very easy to ascertain whether a charity is good or not. I suggest you educate yourself about it before making anymore sweeping assumptions.</p>
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