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		<title>By: Niall</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/06/12/missing-link-daily-82/#comment-280915</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 457 Visa is an interesting creature. It allows British citizen fathers to sponsor sons into the country to take over directorship of major companies, which ASIC smiles upon, but doesn&#039;t allow lenders to treat said sons as permanent residents, so they can buy their own home. Under a 457 visa, no-one qualifies.  There other visa flavours which permit the same ASIC sanctioned happenings as well as permanent residency, which makes me wonder if all the right questions are being asked at the time of application.

Interestingly, said son was quite able to buy his home with some help from Dad (company as well?), just so long as the loan didn&#039;t have to be mortgage insured. The lender involved - one of the Big Four - simply turned a blind eye to the Visa restriction and applied a little commercial commonsense. Technically, the lender broke a federal law which requires non-permanent residents to obtain Foreign Investment Review Board approval for the purchase. FIRB were never consulted.

It&#039;s a perverse bureaucratic system we operate under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 457 Visa is an interesting creature. It allows British citizen fathers to sponsor sons into the country to take over directorship of major companies, which ASIC smiles upon, but doesn&#8217;t allow lenders to treat said sons as permanent residents, so they can buy their own home. Under a 457 visa, no-one qualifies.  There other visa flavours which permit the same ASIC sanctioned happenings as well as permanent residency, which makes me wonder if all the right questions are being asked at the time of application.</p>
<p>Interestingly, said son was quite able to buy his home with some help from Dad (company as well?), just so long as the loan didn&#8217;t have to be mortgage insured. The lender involved &#8211; one of the Big Four &#8211; simply turned a blind eye to the Visa restriction and applied a little commercial commonsense. Technically, the lender broke a federal law which requires non-permanent residents to obtain Foreign Investment Review Board approval for the purchase. FIRB were never consulted.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a perverse bureaucratic system we operate under.</p>
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		<title>By: gilmae</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/06/12/missing-link-daily-82/#comment-280906</link>
		<dc:creator>gilmae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/points and laughs at Vee unleashing the traditional excuse for a beaten side</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/points and laughs at Vee unleashing the traditional excuse for a beaten side</p>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/06/12/missing-link-daily-82/#comment-280883</link>
		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Yes that&#039;s all Private Health Cover is, gets you in when needed instead of waiting, it also never saves you any money no matter how old you are or what you earn, even with the rebate.  The one qualification of that is it may save you money if you&#039;re chronically ill or your ill health is a persistent long term problem.

2.  As a Blues supporter in Origin, yes the referee did give the opposition a lot of unnecessary help and perpetrated a double standard in his decisions.  That is the worst adjudication of rugby league I have seen since the International Judiciary didn&#039;t suspend Nigel Vagana for his dirty high tackle in a match a few years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Yes that&#8217;s all Private Health Cover is, gets you in when needed instead of waiting, it also never saves you any money no matter how old you are or what you earn, even with the rebate.  The one qualification of that is it may save you money if you&#8217;re chronically ill or your ill health is a persistent long term problem.</p>
<p>2.  As a Blues supporter in Origin, yes the referee did give the opposition a lot of unnecessary help and perpetrated a double standard in his decisions.  That is the worst adjudication of rugby league I have seen since the International Judiciary didn&#8217;t suspend Nigel Vagana for his dirty high tackle in a match a few years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Parish</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/06/12/missing-link-daily-82/#comment-280868</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques

I like Kosolapov&#039;s title better because it&#039;s ambiguous.  Which one is which?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques</p>
<p>I like Kosolapov&#8217;s title better because it&#8217;s ambiguous.  Which one is which?</p>
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		<title>By: marcellous</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/06/12/missing-link-daily-82/#comment-280856</link>
		<dc:creator>marcellous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, KP.  I thought I should let you know that in the title of my post (now corrected) which you have followed, I misspelt &quot;Morriset.&quot;  Notwithstanding numerous instances to the contrary, more authoritative usages have only one &lt;em&gt;s&lt;/em&gt;.

No need to keep this comment for posterity unless you think the spelling is of inherent interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, KP.  I thought I should let you know that in the title of my post (now corrected) which you have followed, I misspelt &#8220;Morriset.&#8221;  Notwithstanding numerous instances to the contrary, more authoritative usages have only one <em>s</em>.</p>
<p>No need to keep this comment for posterity unless you think the spelling is of inherent interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/06/12/missing-link-daily-82/#comment-280855</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have titled that sculpture &quot;Marxist, Mouse, Messiah&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have titled that sculpture &#8220;Marxist, Mouse, Messiah&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/06/12/missing-link-daily-82/#comment-280839</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NPOV - Yeah, interesting stuff. I switched over &#039;cause the ABC was giving me the shits, and caught most of it quite by accident. I&#039;m interested in the Taiwanese smart-card solution. I wonder if anyone in the Commonwealth health dept has had the wit to look at it. The bloke narrating kept talking about health premiums being around $US700 per month, though, which worried me. I don&#039;t pay much more than that per year for private cover, and feel that&#039;s excessive. (I only have it because I&#039;m getting to the age where I may need hip and knee replacements. I actually have an ideological objection to it, and wrestle with my conscience regularly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NPOV &#8211; Yeah, interesting stuff. I switched over &#8217;cause the ABC was giving me the shits, and caught most of it quite by accident. I&#8217;m interested in the Taiwanese smart-card solution. I wonder if anyone in the Commonwealth health dept has had the wit to look at it. The bloke narrating kept talking about health premiums being around $US700 per month, though, which worried me. I don&#8217;t pay much more than that per year for private cover, and feel that&#8217;s excessive. (I only have it because I&#8217;m getting to the age where I may need hip and knee replacements. I actually have an ideological objection to it, and wrestle with my conscience regularly.)</p>
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		<title>By: NPOV</title>
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		<dc:creator>NPOV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t actually see anything in that article that suggest that it was somehow immoral to pay more to &quot;jump the queue&quot;.

If some people care enough about getting treatment faster, then they will pay extra money for that service, just as they will pay extra for having their own rooms etc.  What I would object to is paying higher (private) health insurance to obtain access to more expensive procedures and drugs. Those are not things you choose simply because they seem like a good thing to have: they&#039;re something you need when you have rare and difficult medical conditions: i.e., not a matter of personal volition.

Did anyone watch the quite good doco on SBS the other night comparing various healthcare systems around the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t actually see anything in that article that suggest that it was somehow immoral to pay more to &#8220;jump the queue&#8221;.</p>
<p>If some people care enough about getting treatment faster, then they will pay extra money for that service, just as they will pay extra for having their own rooms etc.  What I would object to is paying higher (private) health insurance to obtain access to more expensive procedures and drugs. Those are not things you choose simply because they seem like a good thing to have: they&#8217;re something you need when you have rare and difficult medical conditions: i.e., not a matter of personal volition.</p>
<p>Did anyone watch the quite good doco on SBS the other night comparing various healthcare systems around the world?</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/06/12/missing-link-daily-82/#comment-280816</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting opinion from Gary quoting the Monash academic.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Charles Livingstone, senior lecturer in the Department of Health Science at Monash University, says that what private health insurance does is help people jump the queue, as Howard government advertising highlighted. It does this by paying practitioners more in the private system, and exploiting the differential created between public sector rates of remuneration and those on offer in the private sector&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So in order to stop queue jumping we should:

1. Prevent people from seeking treatment outside medicare etc. through laws? And if we impose laws should the patient along with the doctor receive a fine, a jail sentence or just one of the potential lawbreakers?

2. Should we impose a restrictions on doctors not seeing patients outside the system and if they do should we impose harsh sanctions? Jail, fine , both?

3. Should we impose a law on Australian seeking medical treatment outside the country as that should also be considered line jumping and if so how would it be policed? Should all overseas travelers maintain a travel diary that clearly shows where they were at any particular time. Would the diary run the risk of audit?

These are fair questions to ask if we&#039;re to prevent &quot;line jumpers&quot; getting unfair advantage by paying for their treatment. So has Gary considered any of these questions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting opinion from Gary quoting the Monash academic.</p>
<blockquote><p>Charles Livingstone, senior lecturer in the Department of Health Science at Monash University, says that what private health insurance does is help people jump the queue, as Howard government advertising highlighted. It does this by paying practitioners more in the private system, and exploiting the differential created between public sector rates of remuneration and those on offer in the private sector</p></blockquote>
<p>So in order to stop queue jumping we should:</p>
<p>1. Prevent people from seeking treatment outside medicare etc. through laws? And if we impose laws should the patient along with the doctor receive a fine, a jail sentence or just one of the potential lawbreakers?</p>
<p>2. Should we impose a restrictions on doctors not seeing patients outside the system and if they do should we impose harsh sanctions? Jail, fine , both?</p>
<p>3. Should we impose a law on Australian seeking medical treatment outside the country as that should also be considered line jumping and if so how would it be policed? Should all overseas travelers maintain a travel diary that clearly shows where they were at any particular time. Would the diary run the risk of audit?</p>
<p>These are fair questions to ask if we&#8217;re to prevent &#8220;line jumpers&#8221; getting unfair advantage by paying for their treatment. So has Gary considered any of these questions?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Wilson</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/06/12/missing-link-daily-82/#comment-280805</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a good time over on sidelined too, gilmae ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a good time over on sidelined too, gilmae ;)</p>
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