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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer &#187; Women as means to an end</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-295522</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer &#187; Women as means to an end</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few days ago, Don Arthur drew my attention to the latest &#8216;rebuilt the busted GOP from the Ground Up&#8217; tome, Ross [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few days ago, Don Arthur drew my attention to the latest &#8216;rebuilt the busted GOP from the Ground Up&#8217; tome, Ross [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don Arthur</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-294433</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;... nobody is going to win elections on a platform taken from the Cato policy handbook."

And nobody's going to argue with that.

But since I'm not one of the handful of people whose job it is to craft messages for election campaigns, for me these books are only of academic interest.

I know that some people make a hobby out of backseat-driving during election campaigns, but if I'm going to read something that's of academic interest, I'd rather it was about ideas with longer shelf than how party x can win the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230; nobody is going to win elections on a platform taken from the Cato policy handbook.&#8221;</p>
<p>And nobody&#8217;s going to argue with that.</p>
<p>But since I&#8217;m not one of the handful of people whose job it is to craft messages for election campaigns, for me these books are only of academic interest.</p>
<p>I know that some people make a hobby out of backseat-driving during election campaigns, but if I&#8217;m going to read something that&#8217;s of academic interest, I&#8217;d rather it was about ideas with longer shelf than how party x can win the next election.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Andrew Norton</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-294346</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a fan of Will Wilkinson too, but even in America nobody is going to win elections on a platform taken from the Cato policy handbook. JC's right that thinking about how to win elections is important too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fan of Will Wilkinson too, but even in America nobody is going to win elections on a platform taken from the Cato policy handbook. JC&#8217;s right that thinking about how to win elections is important too.</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-294300</link>
		<dc:creator>Down and Out of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me be clearer this fine morn: "Their ideas &lt;b&gt;may or may not&lt;/b&gt; be very good." I blame the Tour de France for my ambiguity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me be clearer this fine morn: &#8220;Their ideas <b>may or may not</b> be very good.&#8221; I blame the Tour de France for my ambiguity.</p>
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		<title>By: delperro</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-294291</link>
		<dc:creator>delperro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Lloyd gay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Lloyd gay?</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-294269</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone has opinions, but why is there a need to categorise, pidgeon-hole or otherwise put those opinions into boxes for simple dismissal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone has opinions, but why is there a need to categorise, pidgeon-hole or otherwise put those opinions into boxes for simple dismissal?</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-294186</link>
		<dc:creator>Down and Out of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen: the writers Brooks mentions are the wonky types who are into ideas and social policy. Their ideas may not be very good. Some are dishonest. Brooks himself is the type of person who writes amateur social analysis for the New York Times, and (by utter coincidence) always comes to conclusions that coincide with the Republican agenda. In other words, he's a hack. But none of them are Our Lady Of Perpetual Outrage - the woman who wants to tell you why Dunkin' Donuts supports terrorism, and why Absolut Vodka advocates Reconquista. One of these things doesn't belong with the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen: the writers Brooks mentions are the wonky types who are into ideas and social policy. Their ideas may not be very good. Some are dishonest. Brooks himself is the type of person who writes amateur social analysis for the New York Times, and (by utter coincidence) always comes to conclusions that coincide with the Republican agenda. In other words, he&#8217;s a hack. But none of them are Our Lady Of Perpetual Outrage - the woman who wants to tell you why Dunkin&#8217; Donuts supports terrorism, and why Absolut Vodka advocates Reconquista. One of these things doesn&#8217;t belong with the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-294095</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see poor old (I mean young) Michelle Malkin in there, what is she, chopped liver?! Her wingnut credentials are impeccable. And what about Caitlin Flanagan? Just to name two off the top of my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see poor old (I mean young) Michelle Malkin in there, what is she, chopped liver?! Her wingnut credentials are impeccable. And what about Caitlin Flanagan? Just to name two off the top of my head.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Arthur</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-294074</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have been a reader of the blogosphere since 2002. During all that time I have found just one new idea on social and economic organisation that seems like it might have some value and I don’t think I even got that from a blog.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

swio - Now you've made me curious. What was this new idea and are sure it wasn't &lt;a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2008/07/01/footnotes-and-heresies/" rel="nofollow"&gt;just an old idea&lt;/a&gt; you hadn't come across before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have been a reader of the blogosphere since 2002. During all that time I have found just one new idea on social and economic organisation that seems like it might have some value and I don’t think I even got that from a blog.</p></blockquote>
<p>swio - Now you&#8217;ve made me curious. What was this new idea and are sure it wasn&#8217;t <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2008/07/01/footnotes-and-heresies/" >just an old idea</a> you hadn&#8217;t come across before?</p>
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		<title>By: swio</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-294070</link>
		<dc:creator>swio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a reader of the blogosphere since 2002. During all that time I have found just one new idea on social and economic organisation that seems like it might have some value and I don't think I even got that from a blog. 

Blogs are often fun to read but eventually you realise that the underlying ideas and arguments never really change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a reader of the blogosphere since 2002. During all that time I have found just one new idea on social and economic organisation that seems like it might have some value and I don&#8217;t think I even got that from a blog. </p>
<p>Blogs are often fun to read but eventually you realise that the underlying ideas and arguments never really change.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Soon</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-293974</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Soon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grand New Party is paleo-conservatism with a polite face

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/080713_ideas.htm

For a libertarian critique see here

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/16/ross_is_right/#more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grand New Party is paleo-conservatism with a polite face</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vdare.com/sailer/080713_ideas.htm" >http://www.vdare.com/sailer/080713_ideas.htm</a></p>
<p>For a libertarian critique see here</p>
<p><a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/16/ross_is_right/#more" >http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/16/ross_is_right/#more</a></p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/07/18/young-unpredictable-and-right-wing/#comment-293970</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Instead of presenting a coherent philosophical and policy position, they try to craft a message that will appeal to the target group without alienating the party’s base.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But that's how you win elections, Don. The political philosophy remains the same but the message is communicated with different words.


&lt;blockquote&gt;the forgotten middle class.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;the bridge to the 21 st century&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Contract with America.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;Working families.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

These have political philosophies redrafted in new language... well &lt;blockquote&gt;"bridge to the 21st century"&lt;/blockquote&gt; not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Instead of presenting a coherent philosophical and policy position, they try to craft a message that will appeal to the target group without alienating the party’s base.</p></blockquote>
<p>But that&#8217;s how you win elections, Don. The political philosophy remains the same but the message is communicated with different words.</p>
<blockquote><p>the forgotten middle class.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>the bridge to the 21 st century</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Contract with America.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Working families.</p></blockquote>
<p>These have political philosophies redrafted in new language&#8230; well<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;bridge to the 21st century&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> not so much.</p>
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