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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;ve seen future (of healthcare) and it will work (at least a bit)</title>
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		<title>By: penguinunearthed</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2008/11/06/ive-seen-future-of-healthcare-and-it-will-work-at-least-a-bit/#comment-329389</link>
		<dc:creator>penguinunearthed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your second point - the single provider with a flat fee - I thought that was the main way the NHS managed GP services in the UK?

You have to find a doctor&#039;s practice to take you on to his/her list, and then you only go there for primary healthcare services. The problem with it on a grand scale is that the practice has an incentive to only take on healthy patients. So there has to be a way in which to avoid doctors being stuck just with the very sick patients. And you&#039;re stuck with the doctor, so its hard to change.

That said, the UK does have one of the most costefficient health systems in the world, with pretty good health outcomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your second point &#8211; the single provider with a flat fee &#8211; I thought that was the main way the NHS managed GP services in the UK?</p>
<p>You have to find a doctor&#8217;s practice to take you on to his/her list, and then you only go there for primary healthcare services. The problem with it on a grand scale is that the practice has an incentive to only take on healthy patients. So there has to be a way in which to avoid doctors being stuck just with the very sick patients. And you&#8217;re stuck with the doctor, so its hard to change.</p>
<p>That said, the UK does have one of the most costefficient health systems in the world, with pretty good health outcomes.</p>
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		<title>By: helloworld</title>
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		<dc:creator>helloworld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A QUT study just published in Australasian Journal of Ageing shows &quot;Half of nursing home elderly starving&quot; (per news.com.au). Maybe a flat fee, independent of the profit centre, type of regulatory/maintainence geriatric medical services delivery could make sure our Nannas at least get their gruel. A failure rate of 50% if not  systemic, is pretty serious and something needs to be done, and well before it&#039;s my turn, please.
1997 AIHW Stats tell 70% of Oz nursing homes are between 20 and 60 clients if that helps any modellers. The bed licence subsidy is 41k over 4 years per client, that&#039;s $4k/wk to run a 20 client site. No wonder &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24573927-5006789,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;providers are telling the Gov&#039;t to stick it. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A QUT study just published in Australasian Journal of Ageing shows &#8220;Half of nursing home elderly starving&#8221; (per news.com.au). Maybe a flat fee, independent of the profit centre, type of regulatory/maintainence geriatric medical services delivery could make sure our Nannas at least get their gruel. A failure rate of 50% if not  systemic, is pretty serious and something needs to be done, and well before it&#8217;s my turn, please.<br />
1997 AIHW Stats tell 70% of Oz nursing homes are between 20 and 60 clients if that helps any modellers. The bed licence subsidy is 41k over 4 years per client, that&#8217;s $4k/wk to run a 20 client site. No wonder <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24573927-5006789,00.html" rel="nofollow">providers are telling the Gov&#8217;t to stick it. </a></p>
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