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		<title>By: Mangled Thoughts &#187; &#8220;Media Malpractice and how Obama got elected and Palin was targeted&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/02/18/gitmo-how-do-you-want-to-be-raped-today/#comment-346926</link>
		<dc:creator>Mangled Thoughts &#187; &#8220;Media Malpractice and how Obama got elected and Palin was targeted&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gitmo: How do you want to be raped today?, by Nicholas Gruen, Wednesday, February 18, 2009. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fox</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/02/18/gitmo-how-do-you-want-to-be-raped-today/#comment-346590</link>
		<dc:creator>fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Our government knew, or should have known, and did nothing to try to bring an end to it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What is more worrying to me is that our government (in our name etc.) not only kept quiet about it anything it knew but also actively and constantly &lt;em&gt;lied&lt;/em&gt; to us about what it knew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Our government knew, or should have known, and did nothing to try to bring an end to it.</p></blockquote>
<p>What is more worrying to me is that our government (in our name etc.) not only kept quiet about it anything it knew but also actively and constantly <em>lied</em> to us about what it knew.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/02/18/gitmo-how-do-you-want-to-be-raped-today/#comment-346560</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Andrew Bartlett points out - see link in previous comment. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Our major ally, in our name, has done and is doing this. Our government knew, or should have known, and did nothing to try to bring an end to it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Andrew Bartlett points out &#8211; see link in previous comment. </p>
<blockquote><p>Our major ally, in our name, has done and is doing this. Our government knew, or should have known, and did nothing to try to bring an end to it.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Latest court ruling and reports on Guantanamo shows the depths we have sunk to - Andrew Bartlett</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/02/18/gitmo-how-do-you-want-to-be-raped-today/#comment-346559</link>
		<dc:creator>Latest court ruling and reports on Guantanamo shows the depths we have sunk to - Andrew Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recent revelations by an Army Private, Brandon Neely, who served as a prison guard at Guantanamo (h/t Club Troppo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] recent revelations by an Army Private, Brandon Neely, who served as a prison guard at Guantanamo (h/t Club Troppo).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Frijters</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/02/18/gitmo-how-do-you-want-to-be-raped-today/#comment-346520</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Frijters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

always heartwarming to see people like you publicly objecting to these misdeeds supposedly done for our benefit. I of course wholly agree with the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>always heartwarming to see people like you publicly objecting to these misdeeds supposedly done for our benefit. I of course wholly agree with the post.</p>
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		<title>By: melaleuca</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/02/18/gitmo-how-do-you-want-to-be-raped-today/#comment-346505</link>
		<dc:creator>melaleuca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NPOV, I was thinking of stories like this: http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-rendition1-2009feb01,0,7548176,full.story

But maybe I&#039;ve judged Obama too soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NPOV, I was thinking of stories like this: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-rendition1-2009feb01,0,7548176,full.story">http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-rendition1-2009feb01,0,7548176,full.story</a></p>
<p>But maybe I&#8217;ve judged Obama too soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Nanustalker</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/02/18/gitmo-how-do-you-want-to-be-raped-today/#comment-346502</link>
		<dc:creator>Nanustalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smells of someone after compo&#039; from the new touchy-feely Administration. I wouldn&#039;t be taken in by this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smells of someone after compo&#8217; from the new touchy-feely Administration. I wouldn&#8217;t be taken in by this.</p>
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		<title>By: NPOV</title>
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		<dc:creator>NPOV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mela, not that it excuses it, but surely it would fair to guess that somewhat fewer prisoners were sent to Egypt etc. under extraordinary rendition policy than the number that have been held and most likely torturerd in Gitmo the last 8 years?
Also, do you have evidence that Obama is restoring such policy?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090205/ap_on_go_co/cia_panetta&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This article&lt;/a&gt; suggests otherwise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mela, not that it excuses it, but surely it would fair to guess that somewhat fewer prisoners were sent to Egypt etc. under extraordinary rendition policy than the number that have been held and most likely torturerd in Gitmo the last 8 years?<br />
Also, do you have evidence that Obama is restoring such policy?  <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090205/ap_on_go_co/cia_panetta">This article</a> suggests otherwise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: melaleuca</title>
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		<dc:creator>melaleuca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a premonition and it is this: In a day or two a god-bothering blogger will waddle onto this thread and chastise us all for making an odious mockery of George W Bush (PBUH).

But on a more serious note ...

Before George W Bush turned Gitmo into a torture camp, Clinton happily outsourced torture to countries like Egypt. Apparently Obama has reinstated the old Clinton outsourcing policy. Since the types of torture known to be used in places like Egypt are significantly worse than what we now know was done in Gitmo, I think we have to conclude that the Obama administration will be at least as morally repugnant as the Bush Junior administration.

Depressing isn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a premonition and it is this: In a day or two a god-bothering blogger will waddle onto this thread and chastise us all for making an odious mockery of George W Bush (PBUH).</p>
<p>But on a more serious note &#8230;</p>
<p>Before George W Bush turned Gitmo into a torture camp, Clinton happily outsourced torture to countries like Egypt. Apparently Obama has reinstated the old Clinton outsourcing policy. Since the types of torture known to be used in places like Egypt are significantly worse than what we now know was done in Gitmo, I think we have to conclude that the Obama administration will be at least as morally repugnant as the Bush Junior administration.</p>
<p>Depressing isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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