Comments on: Less dirt, more data — why Australia’s econo-bloggers matter

By: Club Troppo » Laurie Oakes is missing the point

Club Troppo » Laurie Oakes is missing the point — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:26:56 +0000

[...] in 2006 UK rumour-monger Guido Fawkes boasted that the news is no longer defined by big media. Laurie Oakes is afraid he’s [...]

By: John Greenfield

John Greenfield — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:52:12 +0000

Jacques

That is because LP acts as both a free outsourced distribution channel for The Oz’ op-ed page, free PR for its writers, and thirdly as a large captive market segment of an otherwise hard to aggreggate pscyhographic. Win-Win for The Oz; silly putzes The Luvvies.

By: Andrew Norton

Andrew Norton — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:49:12 +0000

Jacques – In my experience, MSM mentions rarely result in discernible traffic increases. Google and other blogs are the only major external sources of additional visits.

By: Looking to Krugman at catallaxyfiles

Looking to Krugman at catallaxyfiles — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:23:40 +0000

[...] upset some people – I hadn’t quite realised just how humourless the LP crowd really are. Don over at Club Troppo spoke about econ-bloggers. Some of Australias best economic bloggers look to columnists like [...]

By: Jacques Chester

Jacques Chester — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:48:58 +0000

Pointless observation: we seem to have gotten more traffic from LP’s reference to this followup to Kerr’s Oz op-ed than we did from the op-ed itself.

By: Andrew Norton

Andrew Norton — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:01:39 +0000

Don -

Tim Dunlop used blogging to get into MSM blogging, but left pretty quickly.

Mark Bahnisch built a profile out of LP, and LP is big as Australian blogs go.

You’ve built a very good reputation as a blogger, but so far you have only a modest publication record outside blogging.

By: FDB

FDB — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:53:01 +0000

“I think that Kerr wants someone in the Australian blogoshere to do the same kind of thing with the Melbourne blogger hes unable or unwilling to name.”

Rank hypocrisy. Or can’t he spell Landeryou?

By: FDB

FDB — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:52:41 +0000

“I think that Kerr wants someone in the Australian blogoshere to do the same kind of thing with the Melbourne blogger hes unable or unwilling to name.”

Rank hypocrisy. Can’t he spell Landeryou?

By: Don Arthur

Don Arthur — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:36:53 +0000

Patrick – I don’t think Mark is missing the point. Guido’s blog is all about gossip and he made a name for himself by posting the kind of stories journalists traded amongst themselves but didn’t publish. He’s successful in the same way that Matt Drudge was successful.

Of course the McBride affair goes one step beyond that. And I think that Kerr wants someone in the Australian blogoshere to do the same kind of thing with the Melbourne blogger he’s unable or unwilling to name.

Christian Kerr is interested in this kind of thing and Mark isn’t.

Andrew – You’re right. The economists (and I forgot the mention Fred) don’t owe their public profile to blogging.

Which Australian bloggers do you think have relied on the web to make a name a for themselves?

By: Patrick

Patrick — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:57:10 +0000

Poor Mark misses the point, of course.

Ive never heard of the blogger cited – but as Mick said, he seems to trade in Westminster gossip.

I think it is a bit more than that. They called it investigative journalism, before the word dropped out of common usage.

Why is that necessarily of higher quality than analysis of climate change policy here,

It is d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-t. Not hard to grasp. As it is there are people wanking on about climate change policy in every single paper in the country. There aren’t many conducting investigative journalism.

Quiggins stuff on the economy,

Ditto, except worse because this time the guy in question is actually one of the people doing the wanking on.

the excellent posts on feminism at many, many places, the great litbloggers, etc, etc?

Huh? Does anyone care?

The point is not that Guido Fawkes is better than every/anyone else, but that he adds something distinctive which the regular mass of journos, let alone the larva rodeo, doesn’t.

Kinda like what we see with the coverage of Iran at the moment, in fact.

By: John Greenfield

John Greenfield — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:25:22 +0000

Quiggin’s stuff on the economy

That should read “stuff and nonsense” surely?

The Hayek/Friedman/Thatcher/Pinochet/Reagan/Howard junta has collapsed as the neoliberal religion is crushed by the ALP daisy distributers of social democracy and their public service ‘human services’ comrades”.

Meanwhile, back to Anna Bligh’s budget and the recent EU election results, if you please. For which, perhaps, we might divert to Australian economics blogging’s even more stuff and much more nonsense.

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/whats-with-anna-bligh/

By: Andrew Norton

Andrew Norton — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:28:42 +0000

I agree, Don. Though all the names you cite are people who are people who did not originally make their names as bloggers and whose views would be heard whether they were bloggers or not.