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	<title>Comments on: Jacques Barzun approaches 102</title>
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		<title>By: Rafe Champion</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/11/28/jacques-barzun-approaches-102/#comment-361098</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafe Champion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mills had more scathing things to say in addition to that about academic politics. For example to put down a rival, have his latest book reviewed by a junior  member of a rival faction. Etc. for a review of &quot;The Sociological Imagination&quot; http://www.the-rathouse.com/shortreviews/TheSociologicalImagination.html

The appendix on intellectual cratsmanship is a treat, it would be great to find it on line

The philosophy of science in the US is dominated by logical empiricism which is a waste of space. http://www.the-rathouse.com/2009/TheCostOfPositivism.html

Feynman is essentially a Popperian in his practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mills had more scathing things to say in addition to that about academic politics. For example to put down a rival, have his latest book reviewed by a junior  member of a rival faction. Etc. for a review of &#8220;The Sociological Imagination&#8221; <a href="http://www.the-rathouse.com/shortreviews/TheSociologicalImagination.html">http://www.the-rathouse.com/shortreviews/TheSociologicalImagination.html</a></p>
<p>The appendix on intellectual cratsmanship is a treat, it would be great to find it on line</p>
<p>The philosophy of science in the US is dominated by logical empiricism which is a waste of space. <a href="http://www.the-rathouse.com/2009/TheCostOfPositivism.html">http://www.the-rathouse.com/2009/TheCostOfPositivism.html</a></p>
<p>Feynman is essentially a Popperian in his practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pepperday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Pepperday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, Rafe.  

&quot;...C Wright Mills who described conferences as junkets to permit professors to pursue their feuds and vendettas in exotic locations while younger players scramble for positions in the academic marketplace.&quot;

Thanks.  I didn&#039;t know he&#039;d said that.  

If science students leave college thinking, as they usually do, that science offers a full, accurate, and literal description of man and Nature; if they think theories spring from facts and that scientific authority at any time is infallible, and if they think that science steadily and automatically makes for a better world  then they have wasted their time in the science lecture room and they are a plain menace to the society they live in.  

That is a sweeping exaggeration as many of Barzun&#039;s opinions seem to be.  I&#039;d sooner go with Richard Feynman: &quot;Philosophy of science is about as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds.&quot;  

The scientist graduate just gets on with the job, either submitting papers for peer review and potential falsification, or else designing widgets and potentially finding they don&#039;t work.  A bit of context wouldn&#039;t do anybody any harm but scientists get along without it and &quot;plain menace&quot; is silly.    

Creationism is the result?  Only in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, Rafe.  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;C Wright Mills who described conferences as junkets to permit professors to pursue their feuds and vendettas in exotic locations while younger players scramble for positions in the academic marketplace.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks.  I didn&#8217;t know he&#8217;d said that.  </p>
<p>If science students leave college thinking, as they usually do, that science offers a full, accurate, and literal description of man and Nature; if they think theories spring from facts and that scientific authority at any time is infallible, and if they think that science steadily and automatically makes for a better world  then they have wasted their time in the science lecture room and they are a plain menace to the society they live in.  </p>
<p>That is a sweeping exaggeration as many of Barzun&#8217;s opinions seem to be.  I&#8217;d sooner go with Richard Feynman: &#8220;Philosophy of science is about as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The scientist graduate just gets on with the job, either submitting papers for peer review and potential falsification, or else designing widgets and potentially finding they don&#8217;t work.  A bit of context wouldn&#8217;t do anybody any harm but scientists get along without it and &#8220;plain menace&#8221; is silly.    </p>
<p>Creationism is the result?  Only in America.</p>
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		<title>By: meika</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/11/28/jacques-barzun-approaches-102/#comment-361095</link>
		<dc:creator>meika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading this. It&#039;s so oldy worldy, compared to the hashtaggy nostrums on twitter, and googlewave overload.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading this. It&#8217;s so oldy worldy, compared to the hashtaggy nostrums on twitter, and googlewave overload.</p>
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