Comments on: Good work, George Monbiot http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/12/17/good-work-george-monbiot/ Fearlessly dispensing political, legal and economic analysis (and some whimsy) since 2002 Fri, 25 May 2012 13:31:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Peter T http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/12/17/good-work-george-monbiot/#comment-361414 Peter T Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:11:06 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/?p=9896#comment-361414 Plimer would be very lucky to get a paper on his "calculations" on volcanoes published in any peer-reviewed journal. Not only is he wildly out in his estimate of emissions, his claim requires some a number of deep-sea volcanoes erupting constantly without changing the deep-ocean chemistry (CO2 dissolves in water, so there would be a distinct signature), these volcanoes having ramped up coincidentally with the industrial revolution, and - oh yes - there has to be some related offset in atmospheric oxygen. In short, would not get to first base, and Plimer knows it. 1998 is the usual denier cherrypick (a strong El Nino). And it only works even then if you use only the strat and end points - the average temperature (using all years post 1998) still shows a rising trend. I think his main aim is to sell his book, and he seems to be succeeding in that. Plimer would be very lucky to get a paper on his “calculations” on volcanoes published in any peer-reviewed journal. Not only is he wildly out in his estimate of emissions, his claim requires some a number of deep-sea volcanoes erupting constantly without changing the deep-ocean chemistry (CO2 dissolves in water, so there would be a distinct signature), these volcanoes having ramped up coincidentally with the industrial revolution, and – oh yes – there has to be some related offset in atmospheric oxygen. In short, would not get to first base, and Plimer knows it.

1998 is the usual denier cherrypick (a strong El Nino). And it only works even then if you use only the strat and end points – the average temperature (using all years post 1998) still shows a rising trend.

I think his main aim is to sell his book, and he seems to be succeeding in that.

]]> By: Sacha http://clubtroppo.com.au/2009/12/17/good-work-george-monbiot/#comment-361370 Sacha Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:22:04 +0000 http://clubtroppo.com.au/?p=9896#comment-361370 Two key things struck me about that interview: 1. Has Plimer published a paper containing his calculations on carbon dioxide emissions by volcanoes? If not, why not? 2. His failure to answer the question as to why he chose a baseline year of 1998 to compare all subsequent yearly temperatures was unfortunate. Two key things struck me about that interview:

1. Has Plimer published a paper containing his calculations on carbon dioxide emissions by volcanoes? If not, why not?

2. His failure to answer the question as to why he chose a baseline year of 1998 to compare all subsequent yearly temperatures was unfortunate.

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