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		<title>By: Tel</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2010/06/18/the-vortex-of-performance-politics-sucks-in-another-victim/#comment-377408</link>
		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I guess if those health care reforms weren’t tangible...
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They are still working through the Nancy Pelosi &lt;em&gt;&quot;so that you can find out what is in it&quot;&lt;/em&gt; stage... it will take quite some time to see anything tangible, after which we can argue about the results.

If you are presenting evidence that the Obama presidency has had significant influence in the thread of American history, I doubt anyone would argue with you. However, when Steve said &quot;achieving tangible results&quot; he was implying a measurable positive outcome in real-world terms (at least, that&#039;s my interpretation) so early days for Obamacare on that particular score. Early days on any tangible employment outcome too (and that&#039;s the biggie), you can&#039;t build a nation out of census takers.</description>
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I guess if those health care reforms weren’t tangible&#8230;
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<p>They are still working through the Nancy Pelosi <em>&#8220;so that you can find out what is in it&#8221;</em> stage&#8230; it will take quite some time to see anything tangible, after which we can argue about the results.</p>
<p>If you are presenting evidence that the Obama presidency has had significant influence in the thread of American history, I doubt anyone would argue with you. However, when Steve said &#8220;achieving tangible results&#8221; he was implying a measurable positive outcome in real-world terms (at least, that&#8217;s my interpretation) so early days for Obamacare on that particular score. Early days on any tangible employment outcome too (and that&#8217;s the biggie), you can&#8217;t build a nation out of census takers.</p>
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		<title>By: conrad</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2010/06/18/the-vortex-of-performance-politics-sucks-in-another-victim/#comment-376814</link>
		<dc:creator>conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The current President of the USA has no background in achieving tangible results&quot;

Well, I guess if those health care reforms wern&#039;t tangible, we needn&#039;t worry about all those people complaining about them, since it won&#039;t make much difference anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The current President of the USA has no background in achieving tangible results&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I guess if those health care reforms wern&#8217;t tangible, we needn&#8217;t worry about all those people complaining about them, since it won&#8217;t make much difference anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve at the Pub</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2010/06/18/the-vortex-of-performance-politics-sucks-in-another-victim/#comment-376131</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve at the Pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current President of the USA has no background in achieving tangible results.

He is an empty suit.  Calling lawyers, shaking down people who HAVE made money, and making legal threats is all he knows how to do.

A far cry from the &quot;can-do&quot; that made the USA great.  This man isn&#039;t capable of doing any more than talking about &quot;kicking ass&quot;  (a line most unbecoming of such high office, and no way to run a country)

Who said he is doing all he can?  He could have ordered exceptions to the Jones act to allow Dutch oil spill cleanup ships in to start work rightaway.  He didn&#039;t.  He could have approved the building of sand berms by the state of Louisiana to prevent the oil spill reaching coastal marshes.  He didn&#039;t.  Man of action he ain&#039;t.  He freezes in the face of a real live honest to goodness crisis.

USA will rue the day they voted this doofus into office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current President of the USA has no background in achieving tangible results.</p>
<p>He is an empty suit.  Calling lawyers, shaking down people who HAVE made money, and making legal threats is all he knows how to do.</p>
<p>A far cry from the &#8220;can-do&#8221; that made the USA great.  This man isn&#8217;t capable of doing any more than talking about &#8220;kicking ass&#8221;  (a line most unbecoming of such high office, and no way to run a country)</p>
<p>Who said he is doing all he can?  He could have ordered exceptions to the Jones act to allow Dutch oil spill cleanup ships in to start work rightaway.  He didn&#8217;t.  He could have approved the building of sand berms by the state of Louisiana to prevent the oil spill reaching coastal marshes.  He didn&#8217;t.  Man of action he ain&#8217;t.  He freezes in the face of a real live honest to goodness crisis.</p>
<p>USA will rue the day they voted this doofus into office.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2010/06/18/the-vortex-of-performance-politics-sucks-in-another-victim/#comment-376060</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 03:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I think you&#039;re onto something there Tel, the kind of audacity you&#039;re speaking of could be a real opportunity for Obama. As Tampa was for Howard, but you can&#039;t play it normally, you have to be audacious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I think you&#8217;re onto something there Tel, the kind of audacity you&#8217;re speaking of could be a real opportunity for Obama. As Tampa was for Howard, but you can&#8217;t play it normally, you have to be audacious.</p>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2010/06/18/the-vortex-of-performance-politics-sucks-in-another-victim/#comment-376058</link>
		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 03:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
it’s hard to see what the President can do
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Well if I were President I&#039;d say something along the lines of, &quot;You have until YYYY-MM-DD to stop any new oil spreading onto beaches, whether you do this by floating boom or by well-cap or by vacuum cleaner, I don&#039;t care, but if you fail to achieve this then the entire drilling lease goes void and I open it up to open, public tender and take the best looking proposal and the winner (when they get the job done) gets all future drilling rights in that region&quot;.

As Honest John would say, &quot;Incentivation&quot;.

Then again, if I were President, a whole bunch of federal mandates would be handed back to the states and I would probably be leaking blood through all the bullet holes. Obama has a strong survival instinct and I can respect that.</description>
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it’s hard to see what the President can do
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<p>Well if I were President I&#8217;d say something along the lines of, &#8220;You have until YYYY-MM-DD to stop any new oil spreading onto beaches, whether you do this by floating boom or by well-cap or by vacuum cleaner, I don&#8217;t care, but if you fail to achieve this then the entire drilling lease goes void and I open it up to open, public tender and take the best looking proposal and the winner (when they get the job done) gets all future drilling rights in that region&#8221;.</p>
<p>As Honest John would say, &#8220;Incentivation&#8221;.</p>
<p>Then again, if I were President, a whole bunch of federal mandates would be handed back to the states and I would probably be leaking blood through all the bullet holes. Obama has a strong survival instinct and I can respect that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful satire Steve! Spot on Nick, WTF do they want from Obama? He&#039;s done all he can and they don&#039;t even bother to pretend to have any substantive criticism of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful satire Steve! Spot on Nick, WTF do they want from Obama? He&#8217;s done all he can and they don&#8217;t even bother to pretend to have any substantive criticism of him.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2010/06/18/the-vortex-of-performance-politics-sucks-in-another-victim/#comment-375898</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QED</description>
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		<title>By: Steve at the Pub</title>
		<link>http://clubtroppo.com.au/2010/06/18/the-vortex-of-performance-politics-sucks-in-another-victim/#comment-375889</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve at the Pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama could try to do more than stand around looking stunned, he hasn&#039;t a clue.  Solving an engineering problem by calling in the lawyers.

God help USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama could try to do more than stand around looking stunned, he hasn&#8217;t a clue.  Solving an engineering problem by calling in the lawyers.</p>
<p>God help USA.</p>
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