The Freemasons, World Jewry and 1000 Young Men

With news this week that “the Jews rule this world by proxy“, NSW Opposition police spokesman Peter Debnam would like to make you aware of another sinister cabal:


There’s about a thousand young men, typically between 18 and 30 who are basically running Sydney at the moment,” he told Sydney radio 2GB.

“It’s not the government running Sydney, it’s not the police running Sydney, it’s about a thousand young men.”

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a city to run.


Also, Freemasons.

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wen
wen
2021 years ago

You get first pick of the worms, Roop. You’ll need ’em too – what with all that running!

Geoff Honnor
Geoff Honnor
2021 years ago

I think Debnam’s observation was about 1,000 gun-toting young men. If the context is “organised crime” then he’s probably in the reality ballpark – although it might well be 788 young men, or 1,042……

Leaving aside the obvious Laura Norder voter- gingering resonance of Debnam’s “appeal,” it probably does stack well up on the believability
stakes compared to Mahathir’s Jew-baiting homily of hatred.

I certainly don’t share your implicit view that there’s some sort of immoral equivalence between their respective reported views. Every time I think of Anwar Ibrahim rotting in a prison cell, whilst the corrupt and loathsome “judges” who tried him – at Mahathir’s direction – are elevated to Malaysia’s highest court, I feel more than a little pissed off.

roop
roop
2021 years ago

he’s talking about young men in sydney, in the context of violence in sydney’s “southwest”. in other words, muslims. i don’t mean to imply any sort of equivalency with Mahathir’s comments, but that’s the connection i was getting at.

Geoff Honnor
Geoff Honnor
2021 years ago

“he’s talking about young men in sydney, in the context of violence in sydney’s “southwest”. in other words, muslims”

Well…no. I think that’s more your inference. There are a great many Anglo, Asian and other young men who would fit the Debnam descriptor. And many of the Lebanese – frequently alluded to as a particularly violence-prone community – are in fact, ostensibly, followers of the Maronite Christian rite.

But I think your average punter is smart enough to work out that young guys caught up in armed violence are unlikely to be legitimate professors of any of the great monotheistic religions, Roop.

cs
cs
2021 years ago

usversusthemism rules, OK … politics these days is that stupid simple, it seems … and I don’t share Geoff’s touching faith in that mythical beast, the so-called ‘average punter’

roop
roop
2021 years ago

point taken re inference. i did not hear debnam’s comments on the radio, so maybe you’re right re the context. nevertheless, if you are right, it’s amusing to note that the editor of the australian fails your “average punter” test.

wen
wen
2021 years ago

What’s so complicated, Chris?

Unity Dow (Botswanian High Court judge) recently anywhere (Good Weekend a few weeks ago) but it was something like:

“most human beings are really good (the average punters, Chris?). They look after their children, are kind to their neighbours, etc, but a handful aren’t – and the good just don’t have the resources to deal with the bad.”

Hence we have laws & police & courts to enforce them. Protecting the average punters.

cs
cs
2021 years ago

wen, well who is the average punter? Is the average punter the person that most people believe is the average punter? Or, perhaps the average punter is the person that the average punter believes that most people believe is the average punter? We all need our myths. Don’t take any notice of me … I’m not an average punter, or at least I’m not what most people believe the average punter believes is an average punter.

wen
wen
2021 years ago

Lord – what a muck I made of that comment – if only i could recall the missing sentence(s?) – kind of you to respond cs, considering.

Sorry to use your comment box to ask this Roop -can’t get into my e-mail, computer’s been comandeered – but i need some technical expertise. There should be a button bar on the movable type new entry screen – for URL, italics, etc, but I can’t find it. Any suggestions?

Geoff Honnor
Geoff Honnor
2021 years ago

“usversusthemism rules, OK … politics these days is that stupid simple, it seems”

Can’t recall when it didn’t Chris. “Us”, in this context, is people who don’t pursue interests in drug dealing and robbing, armed with handguns. “Them”, presumably, are those who do.

I think ethnicity and religous persuasion, (such as it might be) is to one side of the argument.

It seems that triggers like “Muslim” are used equally by those on both sides of the equation
to either apportion or deflect a simplistic blame.

And Carr’s reference to “a culture of medievalism” might be as true of Sicilian culture as it is of Lebanese in this particular debate.

Geoff Honnor
Geoff Honnor
2021 years ago

“Sorry to use your comment box to ask this Roop -can’t get into my e-mail, computer’s been comandeered – but i need some technical expertise. There should be a button bar on the movable type new entry screen – for URL, italics, etc, but I can’t find it. Any suggestions?”

What browser are you using wen? I have the same problem if I use Opera. It’s OK in IE.

cs
cs
2021 years ago

Geoff,

“usversusthemism rules, OK … politics these days is that stupid simple, it seems”. Can’t recall when it didn’t Chris.

As someone recently reminded me, there are two kinds of people in this world … those who think there are two kinds of people and those who don’t. Call me crazy, but personally, I hang out with the idea that “there is a place for all at the rendezvous of victory.”

Geoff Honnor
Geoff Honnor
2021 years ago

That’s commendable Chris but I’m not sure that it does much to address the immediate problem. Offering a place for all at the rendezvous of victory should surely be dependent on eschewing the armed ability to overtly influence the seating plan.

wen
wen
2021 years ago

On Tuesday … Ziad Razzak, 24, and his friend’s wife Mervat Nemra, 22 were shot dead in a hail of 100 bullets at a home in Greenacre. .

What would an approproiate response be to the horrible murder of these two people? (average punters/ordinary people – you know, going about their ordinary business, just like you and me…)

And the poem’s not just about race:

it remains to man to conquer all
violence entrenched in the recesses of his passion.

How do we do this? Saying it’s wrong seems like a good place to start.

Ken Parish
Ken Parish
2021 years ago

There are two kinds of people in this world: those who believe in a rendezvous of victory and those who see it all as yin and yang. The first group is yang.

Graham
2021 years ago

Umm, excuse me because I’m thick, but what the hell does a “rendezvous of victory” actually involve?

mark
2021 years ago

Well, it’s a rendezvous, right, of victory…

(I’m guessing, from previous comments-box threads, that everyone except Dave Ricardo will get the reference…)

Ken Parish
Ken Parish
2021 years ago

The rendezvous of victory is when in the same year:

(1) Collingwood wins the AFL flag;
(2) South Sydney wins the NRL;
(3) The Socialist Left does a mega ethnic branch stack and gains control of the ALP National Executive;
(4) The US Democrats win the Presidency with a dream team of Howard Dean and Jesse Jackson, after Michael Moore and John Pilger prove in a joint exclusive that the Bush family, Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden had a secret consortium to gain joint control of the world’s oil supplies for their families and set up a world government triumvirate;
(5) Carmen Lawrence deposes Simon Crean as Parliamentary Leader, and becomes PM after John Howard dies suddenly of a massive heart attack and the Liberal Party self-destructs in factional warfare between supporters of Abbott and Costello;
(6) Nimbin goes national, with drug-crazed violent teenagers dealing drugs on every corner while their elders veg out on gunja, debate endlessly about which Stones album was best, and wonder why the rendezvous of victory feels more like Jim Cairns’ funeral.

Graham
2021 years ago

Right. And which part of my brain do I have to have lobotomised to believe that this might actually happen?

cs
cs
2021 years ago

Plus perfect five-footers, breaking left and right.

cs
cs
2021 years ago

Plus perfect five-footers, breaking left and right.

Geoff Honnor
Geoff Honnor
2021 years ago

“Umm, excuse me because I’m thick, but what the hell does a “rendezvous of victory” actually involve?’

The Rendezvous of Victory is a pub in Paddo, close to the Sydney Football Stadium. It’s about a block away from the Destination of Defeat – another hostelry. Both are frequented by average punters.

Ken Parish
Ken Parish
2021 years ago

(7) OK, two metre barrels. I forgot them.
(8) And Peter Garrett and Helen Caldicott are elected Australia’s first President (joint) after another Republic referendum is passed by unanimous acclamation (Costello having killed Abbott in a fit of rage after Abbott issued a press release announcing that Bob Ellis was right after all and Costello’s wife really had been an ALP slut).
(9) And Midnight Oil’s Beds are Burning is declared the new national anthem.
(10) And PM Lawrence announces that Australia is ratifying Kyoto, legislates an emissions target 4 times as tough as required, bans all fossil fuels and announces a program to turn over millions of hectares to mung bean production (when research reveals they make a perfect fuel and a quick check shows that Dick Honan doesn’t control the mung bean industry yet).

Ken Parish
Ken Parish
2021 years ago

(11) And rugby union is declared the national sport after the Wallabies thrash the All Blacks in the World Cup final and win the Bledisloe in the same year. However, in a gesture of working class solidarity, PM Lawrence makes ongoing funding for the ARU contingent on banning all GPS school alumni from attendance at any rugby game unless they display a current membership ticket for one of the numerous socialist left factions of the ALP.

Dave Ricardo
Dave Ricardo
2021 years ago

Ken,

that is very amusing satire. Congratulations, you’ve morphed into Tim Blair-lite.

Ken Parish
Ken Parish
2021 years ago

Coming from you, Dave, that’s high praise indeed.

cs
cs
2021 years ago

And the cops’ll all have wooden legs.
And the jails will be made of tin.
And we’ll hang the jerk
Who invented work.

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