I was delighted as well as surprised to see the picture of Tintin in Mark’s post below today. I had a passion for the Tintin comics when I was a child.
It was John Quiggin who inadvertently re-ignited my old passion. He made a request for civil discussion. That provoked some lame insults, which led me to think that Captain Haddock could do better.
Why did I think that? I dunno- perhaps if you put a sailor’s cap on Quiggin’s latest photo perhaps?
Anyway, I surfed around a bit, and posted this link on my sports website.
But the itch was scratched, and now I had to look. The official Tintin website is very good (its all Flash but if you look in the Dossier section you can find the list of Captain Haddock’s Anathemas (an essential tool for any blog commenter), as well as biographical information, etc.
The fan websites are pretty good, too. In fact, I was so inspired that I went to ebay and bid for some copies. I won, as well, and they’ll be in my hot little hands by the end of the week.
It just goes to show, you never know where reading a blog may take you. The Law of Unintended Consequences is alive and well.
You know, Snowy doesn’t go WOOF, in French.
‘…some lame insults, which led me to think that Captain Haddock could do better.’
Could he? ‘Lame insults’ nos. 4 and 7 were in fact Haddock insults.
‘…perhaps if you put a sailor’s cap on Quiggin’s latest photo perhaps?’
Don’t you think it looks good enough on the old one: http://www.johnquiggin.com/images/captain.gif
The great thing about Captain Haddock’s insults was that your imagination filled them in! A good lesson for blog commenters everywhere – less is more!
Why Snowy ? I always thought the dog’s name was Milou !
Snowy in the English translations, Phil.
Tintin could do with some deconstruction. Why was Snowy always getting drunk on Scotch? And why were there virtuallly no women in Tintin apart from the terrifyingly predatory (when it came to Captain Haddock) Bianca Castafiore, the world renowned operatic diva, the extent of whose repertoire seemingly extended no further than the first two lines of the ‘Jewel Song’ aria from ‘Faust?’ It turns out that Herge shared Ken Parish’s loathing for Opera but clearly, we need to know more….
“Tintin could do with some deconstruction.”
Herge was a between-the-wars far right winger in Belgium (and I don’t mean in the John Howard sense, I mean really a far right winger), and he was accused (but I don’t think it was ever proved) of being a collaborator during the war.
That might be a good place to start.
Geoff and Dave, I’ve been brooding on a little essaylette about Tintin, George Remi (Herge)and the series’ evolving political sensibilities, ever since as a kid, I suddenly got the point of the juxtaposition of the first and last panels in ‘Tintin and The Picaros’.
I’ll try and hammer it out tonight, before a few too many few scotches make me completely Haddocked.
Someone out there may know the true background on Castafiore and that song, but I can speculate that there’s a simple reason. It’s a song about physical vanity, which makes it comical for a hideous old bat to be singing it; and it’s from a French opera, which means (a)Herge himself understood it in the first place, and (b)an Italian diva would have a plausible reason to be singing it in the language of Herge’s readers. As to why only that song, well if it gets a laugh every time, why expand the repertoire?
“The Jewel Song” also sets up plenty of opportunities for thematic gags throughout series, from “The Castifiore Emerald” to Rastapopoulos dressed as Mephistopheles in “The Red Sea Sharks.”
And I think someone should undertake a study of all the various hallucination scenes in the series, many of which deftly quoted surrealistic iconography, and almost form a self-contained mythos of their own.
Also it’s funny when the Thompsons keep running into eachother all the time.
There is a fabulous documentary by Anders H
Great minds think alike, Scott! Was just about to post on Tintin VS Asterix(which I will do anyway). And thanks for that tip on the doco, David, must look it up. I love the biography of Herge by Harry Thompson(called, simply, ‘Tintin’) It profiles Herge, his life and times and his work in the same engaging and interesting manner as Charles Osborne did for Agatha Christie in ‘The Life and Crimes of Agatha Christie’.
I’ve heard that Spielberg is proposing to do a film based on Tintin–has anyone heard any more about it? So far screen versions(animated) have been crap that’s for sure.
incidentally, Milou(Snowy) goes ouah ouah in French! Just as French cats go miaou, French roosters cocorico, French donkeys hi-han-hi-han, and French sneezers ‘atchoum!’ (my kids are always telling me, you can tell you’re French, Mum, because you always go ‘atchoum!’ and not ‘Atishoo!’)
‘I’ve heard that Spielberg is proposing to do a film based on Tintin…’
I can’t think of anything worse.
‘So far screen versions(animated) have been crap that’s for sure.’
I thought the animated versions SBS has been screening in the afternoon were fine. They missed a bit of the humour, but they were faithful, which is about as much as you could ask for. If we’re talking about the same thing, what was your gripe, Sophie?
Yeah the ones screened on SBS were sorta OK, in a diet lite beer way, but didn’t have the heft, humour and texture of the books. “Tintin And The Lake of Sharks”
And who do you have in mind for the other six?
my gripe with them is that they just don’t have the flavour of the comic books–they miss the language, the sly comment, and besides, they were not actually drawn by Herge, as far as I remember(there was some snarl-up with his contract I think which meant that he had no say over filmed versions of his work)
and the voices also sound wrong in my opinion. The BBC did an audio version which was OK but of course Tintin without the pictures..well!
surfing around to find info on the Spielberg project, it appears that he’s planning a trilogy based on 6 of the books, with the first being based on Red Rackham’s Treasure and the Secret of the Unicorn. Somebody said that maybe Rupert Grint (who plays Ron Weasley in the Harry Potter films)might play Tintin! (uncomfirmed). Well at least that’s better than Jean Claude van Damme who actually tried to get the part, to be told politely, no thanks.
Y’know, podulating away on the mechanics of putting Tintin on screen, I’m starting to think Spielberg may one of the less worse choices to get a good film up.
Like Herge and Hitchcock, he’s a master of visually based narrative twists and he’s got the clout to keep studio execs from fucking up the casting and plotlines
(“Call me crazy, but just think about this. Captain Haddock’s a woman! Y’know, we’re playing around with gender stereotyping here and there’s your USRT too! I hear Kathleen Turner’s looking for a Travolta-style comeback vehicle, and we can get her for only high six figures now.”)
I’d like think Spielberg has learnt from the gaudy galleon of disaster that “Hook” was and could play straight and true with the source material, as he did with “Empire Of The Sun.”
Look, putting Tintin onscreen in a way that also captures Herge’s unique sensibility will always be a gamble. It’s gotta played as straight-faced high adventure (minus the knickerbockers), with the humour (both intended in the original text, and tongue in cheek for modern audences) leaking through as an inevitable byproduct of the story and mise en scene – like what Ted Elliott and Terry Russio did with “Zorro” and “Pirates of the Carribean” or Bill Goldman with “Butch” and “Princess”.
Then of course there’s casting, which along with a good script, gets you two thirds of the way there. My view is that Tintin is basically the straight man for a whole cast of “zany” characters so you cast an unknown, who looks, moves and sounds right, as yer mainboy and surround him with great character actors. Then the fun begins – blog threadwise for starters
If Spielberg’s on form, and drops his transcendental agenda to have fun, as he did “With Catch Me If You Can”, it could really work. But if he goes all “Hook”, “AI”, “Colour Purple” or “Amistad” on the project, then “Billions of blue blistering barnacles you lilly-livered landlubber of a Bashi-bazouk” would just be the opening salvo of what I’d rain down on his D-girl ensorceled head.
The doco “Tintin and I” was shown on SBS recently,
possibly January?
Yep. Tue, Jan 11th.
And most of the books have recently (last year or so) been
republished and are generallly available locally.
I have seen a picture above a friends fireplace of an old Tintin in a bar with a newspaper and a glass of scotch and a cigarette, with an old Snowy asleep nearby, I would love a copy for my son who was always an avid fan and learned most of his french from reading Tintin in the french versions. Any one got any ideas?