Inner City Uni Graduates

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Concentrations of people with university qualifications in Melbourne in 2001 (from the ABS’s social atlas of Melbourne)

From a talk to be delivered tonight. The pattern is striking n’est pas?

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boynton
2022 years ago

It’s the foothills of the Dandenongs bit that I find quite interesting, naturellement.

Tony.T
2022 years ago

Au contraire: The heeadhills of the Dandenongs have a better view.

boynton
2022 years ago

Eh bien – makes it harder to concentrate…

Andrew Leigh
2022 years ago

Cute, but surely not surprising. If there’s one thing urban economics has taught us over the past few decades, it’s that human capital is attracted to cities.

http://post.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/glaeser/papers/Review_Florida.pdf

Nicholas Gruen
2022 years ago

Yes – just posted for cuteness I guess and interest – but not so much surprise.

But it appears you have forgotten one piece of etiquette in this thread of comments.

J’accuse.

Tony.T
2022 years ago

Yeah. Lift your game, Andr

The Poll Bludger
2022 years ago

Here’s what I notice with my pointy psephological hat on.

1. The white expanses to the west and north of the city are rock-solid Labor but the ones to the east and south-east or not. Proportion of non-English speaking backgrounds would be the key variable here – does the ABS has a map for that as well?

2. One of the most interesting results of the last election was that Aston emerged as a safer Liberal seat than Kooyong. It’s located in the dead zone due east of the city.

3. There’s hardly a marginal seat anywhere in the red zone. There’s safe Labor seats (Melbourne, Batman) and safe Liberal seats (Kooyong, Higgins) but nothing in between, apart from the almost-marginal Labor seat of Melbourne Ports.

4. The very wealthy coastal strip from Brighton south to Beaumaris (Warnie country) is less educated than middle-income latte-land.

The Poll Bludger
2022 years ago

Okay, some slight exaggerations there – marginal Liberal Deakin is in the outer red zone, and Aston is more pink than white.

Peter
2022 years ago

The general pattern is that the degreed will favour almost any inner suburb (swank or gritty will do) and a few bayside or outer foothill suburbs (mostly but not always high socio-economic status).

There is some correllation with the tram network (being inner-suburb based), but the biggest appears to be where the unis are (which is mostly inner).

Graduates will also gather in the Northeast (around Latrobe), a sector around Monash Clayton and the major transport routes east of Swinburne. Bayside is the main exception, where there are many graduates but no nearby uni.

Poll Bludger: Yes the ABS does do ‘Language other than English’ and ‘birthplace’ maps, though I can’t point to a reference.

Re 1. I’m not sure if the NESB/ALP relationship is that clear. Werribee is Labor but, like Frankston, has a low NESB population (unlike Footscray or Broadmeadows).

2. Some of the seats like Kooyong and Higgins have proportions of flat-dwelling tertiary educated cosmopolitan types who might be reds or greens. Although not as numerous as in (say) Brunswick, they partially counteract the older people who probably voted for Sir Robert.

Aston (and much of the outer south-east) is well-paid hard-working tradesmen, seperate houses with 4 cars and kids. They probably desire tertiary education for their kids, which leaves one to wonder where future tradesmen will come from with apprenticeships drying up.

ABS has a map showing people with trade quals which shows the pattern quite well (tradies are in middle-income outer suburbs, with relatively low NESB populations and almost no public transport).

Those with no qualifications seem to be in the solid Labor seats. These are the lowest income areas but the main centres usually have train access (eg Broadmeadows & Dandenong).

A suburb like Brunswick has quite high house prices, but is very Left. I assume that this is due to a confluence of both old working class and educated ‘grunge-green’ types.

Unfortunately the map cuts off Frankston. It would be interesting to compare Frankston South and Frankston North.

Peter
2022 years ago

The general pattern is that the degreed will favour almost any inner suburb (swank or gritty will do) and a few bayside or outer foothill suburbs (mostly but not always high socio-economic status).

There is some correllation with the tram network (being inner-suburb based), but the biggest appears to be where the unis are (which is mostly inner).

Graduates will also gather in the Northeast (around Latrobe), a sector around Monash Clayton and the major transport routes east of Swinburne. Bayside is the main exception, where there are many graduates but no nearby uni.

Poll Bludger: Yes the ABS does do ‘Language other than English’ and ‘birthplace’ maps, though I can’t point to a reference.

Re 1. I’m not sure if the NESB/ALP relationship is that clear. Werribee is Labor but, like Frankston, has a low NESB population (unlike Footscray or Broadmeadows).

2. Some of the seats like Kooyong and Higgins have proportions of flat-dwelling tertiary educated cosmopolitan types who might be reds or greens. Although not as numerous as in (say) Brunswick, they partially counteract the older people who probably voted for Sir Robert.

Aston (and much of the outer south-east) is well-paid hard-working tradesmen, seperate houses with 4 cars and kids. They probably desire tertiary education for their kids, which leaves one to wonder where future tradesmen will come from with apprenticeships drying up.

ABS has a map showing people with trade quals which shows the pattern quite well (tradies are in middle-income outer suburbs, with relatively low NESB populations and almost no public transport).

Those with no qualifications seem to be in the solid Labor seats. These are the lowest income areas but the main centres usually have train access (eg Broadmeadows & Dandenong).

A suburb like Brunswick has quite high house prices, but is very Left. I assume that this is due to a confluence of both old working class and educated ‘grunge-green’ types.

Unfortunately the map cuts off Frankston. It would be interesting to compare Frankston South and Frankston North.

Peter
2022 years ago

The general pattern is that the degreed will favour almost any inner suburb (swank or gritty will do) and a few bayside or outer foothill suburbs (mostly but not always high socio-economic status).

There is some correllation with the tram network (being inner-suburb based), but the biggest appears to be where the unis are (which is mostly inner).

Graduates will also gather in the Northeast (around Latrobe), a sector around Monash Clayton and the major transport routes east of Swinburne. Bayside is the main exception, where there are many graduates but no nearby uni.

Poll Bludger: Yes the ABS does do ‘Language other than English’ and ‘birthplace’ maps, though I can’t point to a reference.

Re 1. I’m not sure if the NESB/ALP relationship is that clear. Werribee is Labor but, like Frankston, has a low NESB population (unlike Footscray or Broadmeadows).

2. Some of the seats like Kooyong and Higgins have proportions of flat-dwelling tertiary educated cosmopolitan types who might be reds or greens. Although not as numerous as in (say) Brunswick, they partially counteract the older people who probably voted for Sir Robert.

Aston (and much of the outer south-east) is well-paid hard-working tradesmen, seperate houses with 4 cars and kids. They probably desire tertiary education for their kids, which leaves one to wonder where future tradesmen will come from with apprenticeships drying up.

ABS has a map showing people with trade quals which shows the pattern quite well (tradies are in middle-income outer suburbs, with relatively low NESB populations and almost no public transport).

Those with no qualifications seem to be in the solid Labor seats. These are the lowest income areas but the main centres usually have train access (eg Broadmeadows & Dandenong).

A suburb like Brunswick has quite high house prices, but is very Left. I assume that this is due to a confluence of both old working class and educated ‘grunge-green’ types.

Unfortunately the map cuts off Frankston. It would be interesting to compare Frankston South and Frankston North.

Dave Ricardo
Dave Ricardo
2022 years ago

“The very wealthy coastal strip from Brighton south to Beaumaris (Warnie country) is less educated than middle-income latte-land.”

Isn’t Brighton full of trophy wives – blonde and rich but not well educated?

Tony.T
2022 years ago

“Did you see that Brighton funeral on the news? The widow was wearing a black tennis dress.”

Boom. Tish.

Joel Parsons
2022 years ago

I’m surprised no one has paid any attention to the little spots of pink in the outer West, which I think represent new estates like Caroline Springs which attract people who grew up locally but have made good and got University educations (in a similar way to the much discussed “aspirational” areas of Western Sydney).

Paul Watson
2022 years ago

More surprising is the only relatively (31-43%) highly-educated enclave in NW Melbourne – smack-bang at Melbourne Airport.

Presumably, this is a function of the census counting hotel residents and/or airport evening-workers where they are found on census night, as opposed to where they actually live. Odd.

OTOH, with the airport now being privately-owned, maybe its rent-seeking owners are making a tidy sum, letting ex-Ansett planes and hangars by the overnight square-metre/seat to the quasi-homeless and deaf.

Nicholas Gruen
2022 years ago

There’s an enclave of big mansions quite near Tulla with views of the city. I think they got attracted to some rolling hills (rare in Melb) and big blocks. And far enough from the airport for noise not to be an issue.

Dave Ricardo
Dave Ricardo
2022 years ago

What did the Brighton housewife buy after her colostomy?

Shoes to match the bag.

Paul Watson
2022 years ago

Nicholas,

I’m aware of the existence of some McMansion locales in the NW, but the map unambiguously shows Melbourne Airport (and nowhere but) as the enclave in question.

Andrew Leigh
2022 years ago

Excusez-moi, mais je ne parle pas fran