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mick
16 years ago

Yea, I loved that speech as well, that’s why I threw it up over at LP.

I think that speech finally convinced me that I prefer Obama to Clinton.

blacklight
blacklight
16 years ago

just wow.

very kennedy.

strap in for Feb 5.

I suspect west wing like battle all the way to the convention it self.

The eloquence of his oratory skills may be the key.

Caroline
Caroline
16 years ago

I don’t think he was reading any of it. From the heart, which will always trump reading from an autocue. Like I said in a previous thread. Hills represents the status quo, this guy wants to make a clean sweep. Interestingly, but I guess not so surprisingly they are facing very similar issues in terms of the entrenched arrogance and behaviour of their government bureacracies. He is indeed a good orator, great timing.

Just hope he doesn’t get shot.

Bring Back CL's blog
Bring Back CL's blog
16 years ago

He is up there with the best of them BUT why is he so bad at ‘debates’.

I guess another quaetion is why is hillary sogood at debates but no good at speeches.

Mind you Willaim Jennings Bryan was a great at speeches so was Ike’s opponent

Caroline
Caroline
16 years ago

You’re probably right Nicholas, I did notice the side to side head movement, and if he is reading a speech, which I agree–nothing wrong with that, I am nevertheless somewhat less impressed. Oh yes, its a good speech an all I agree and he does it well.

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Jim Farrell
16 years ago

Caroline,

You are dead on in your characterization of the speech as like unto the Kennedys. Like the Kennedys, Obama is brandishing a classical education, using figures of speech that hark back to Cicero, the Roman Senator and orator. In my experience, one doesn’t learn to write like that in college; the cadences need to be ingrained in more formative years, such as high school.

So, I needed to check his biography, where I found this:

When Obama was ten he returned to Hawaii under the care of his grandparents, and later his mother, for the better educational opportunities. He was enrolled in the fifth grade at Punahou School, a prestigious academy that once taught the Hawaiian royal family. He graduated with honors.

His College experience and career

Upon finishing high school, Obama studied for two years at Occidental College in California, before transferring to Columbia University in New York City.

Graham
Graham
16 years ago

This would have to be the most asinine and vacuous commentary I witnessed on US politics for many a long day (and night).
I must admit to being quite surprised at the political naievity being displayed. Sure, Obama possesses fine oratorical skills but to this point in time little of substance has been shown. In fact, the way he played the ‘racist’card over the King/LBJ episode was more reminiscent of Howard’s technique when playing the early Hansonite card in Oz politics a decade ago. There are many examples of Obama failings but it appears some amongst are more interested in the superficiality of form rather than doing some hard yards in the search for substance. “one autocue or two” now there’s substance.
With due respect I would suggest you guys stick to your day jobs

Jim Farrell
16 years ago

Graham,

Get up on the misanthropic side of the bed? I don’t think you’ll find ANY commentary on politics in this thread aside from your own post. Perhaps on a second reading you’ll see that all of the commentary is precisely about oratorical skills.

Good luck with the sleep issues.

Graham
Graham
16 years ago

Jim

OK! OK! Perhaps I was a touch ‘poltico-miserabilist’ so to speak – but ‘misanthropic’ that’s a little harsh. Your reasonableness will force me to have a second read – and get more sleep.

Jim Farrell
16 years ago

Nicholas,

I’ll be over on the next boat. While I’ve never had the pleasure of visiting Melbourne, I have made a couple of trips to Sydney and got up to Cairns and the Hunter Valley as well. As James Farrell pointed out, we’ve as many Irish cousins in Australia as we have in Ireland and while the accents change a bit from place to place, the subversive wit of our heritage has survived its various expeditions and exiles.

Please look me up if you’re ever coming back this way.

Jim

MsJane
MsJane
16 years ago

Blogocracy has posted the latest incarnation of that speech:

http://blogs.news.com.au/news/blogocracy/index.php/news/comments/obama_campaign_ad/

The music video was originally published here:
http://www.dipdive.com/

It’s become something of a hit – so much so that Obama has now posted it on his website.

MsJane
MsJane
16 years ago

Correction: the above video is a reincarnation of the Iowa victory speech.