Bolt for nix

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Anne Summers' essay on Andrew Bolt in The Monthly is free access for 24 hours.  A key extract:

Media and politics today are less a contest of ideas and more a continuing conflict of opinion. “Bolt’s genius is that he’s always finding the fault lines and finding an argument,” Lachlan Harris, press secretary to Kevin Rudd when he was prime minister, told me. The resultant toxicity of our politics is only going to get worse. “In 2004, we estimated that people were getting 70% of political information from news outlets, television or papers,” says Harris. “Now it is flipped: most people get most of their political information from opinion, from a medium that is dependent upon division of opinion.”

Although Bolt describes himself as a conservative columnist, he is less a William Safire than a Billy Graham. He is like an evangelist, providing fixed points of reference for people who feel confused in a world where certainty has eroded. He tells people what they should be thinking – and hordes of followers lap it up.

Like the Fox jocks, Bolt tends to stick to just a few themes – “no stolen generation”, “honour the Churches”, “frown on divorce”, “crack down on welfare”, “stop the cult of victimhood”, “stop immigration”, “end multiculturalism” – and to hammer them over and over. Top of the list in the right-wing songbook, though, is the non-existence of climate change. Bolt is utterly obdurate when it comes to the subject. “I thought he wrote too much about climate change,” says Bruce Guthrie, “but he was immoveable.”

107 Comments

  1. Jikky

    “Top of the list in the right-wing songbook, though, is the non-existence of climate change. Bolt is utterly obdurate when it comes to the subject.”

    What a very strange and Orwellian statement. It would be straight leftist projection. But the use of Orwellian language makes the statement just very odd. Ken you may not realize it. But climate change has always been real. For as many billions of years as the planet has been around. Bolt knows this. Apparently you don’t know this. You might want to clarify your position. Are you claiming that climate change is a recent phenomenon? What exactly are you claiming?

  2. JC

    Jikky

    Ken isn't claiming anything. What does this mean to you in terms of what follows on?

    A key extract:
  3. KB Keynes

    Bolt has never been a very numerate person afterall that is why the ALP brokers leaked him the internal poll that was flatly contradicted by every public poll but did he understand this?No. Climate change is the same.

    Not good on memories with girlfriends either apparently

  4. Peter

    It is very odd and suspicious that Bolt wants to hide his personal and family history and it appears, even lie about it.

  5. Ken Parish

    At the risk of taking "Jikky" more seriously than he deserves, generally when people refer to "climate change" these days they're employing it as shorthand for "anthropogenic climate change".

  6. whyisitso

    Thanks for your clarification Ken. There are very few skeptics who "deny" that the climate has been in a warming phase since the beginning of the industrial revolution, or that the increase in anthropogenic CO2 is having some effect on warming. The debate is centred around how much the present warming is man-made versus a natural phenomenon.

  7. Dan

    Interestingly, that debate is far less pronounced amongst people who actually conduct scientific work in that field.

  8. JC
    Bolt has never been a very numerate person afterall...

    Homes, as a Christian does the story about who is without sin cast the first stone mean anything to you? Ummm

  9. whyisitso

    The Bolt trial sorted out the evil News Ltd empire in australia, thus proving the local subsidiary at least as bad as the UK version. Next in the firing line is Quadrant magazine, when they print such appalling material as this.

    As a lucky country whose luck is ahared by a mob of mediocre racists we have to give thanks to Mordy for our sharp jab to the plexis.

  10. KB Keynes

    well JC I could have linked that famous stoush on Troppo when you got confused about what a denominator and a numerator is.

    do you always like egg on your face?

    Give it a rest Whyisitso.

    If Bolt had have done just some research and have had shown some evidence for his allegations there would have been no trial.

    He didn't. The Catallaxy excuse doesn't work in court.

  11. jc

    Yes homer, everyone gets egg on them if they're near you.

    Link please. When did I get the numerator and denominator wrong?

  12. KB Keynes

    I love it JC forgets.

    It was all about Krugman and you tried unsuccessfully to show he was wrong but naturally you were wrong.

    Egg on face is something familiar at Catallaxy.
    Judy has it over Bolt naturally just as she had it over Bernie Fraser.

  13. KB Keynes

    Summers says this
    In 1957 Mijndert Huibert Bolt and his fiancée, Margaretha Korenstra, applied to migrate to Australia. Mijndert Bolt, then aged 24, from Utrecht in the Netherlands, had trained as a teacher, although he described himself as a clerk on his immigration application form. Korenstra, aged 26, was a shorthand typist and came from Aalsmeer, a town 13 kilometres south-west of Amsterdam famous for its flower market, the largest in the world, and notorious for having had a Nazi mayor during World War II. The couple undertook to marry before embarkation. The selection officer who interviewed Bolt said the applicant had created a “favourable impression on appearance and attitude” and that he “should assimilate readily enough”. Both applicants underwent medical and other checks. They were found to be in good health and to have no criminal record; they were confirmed not to have engaged in “political delinquency during occupation 1940–45”; and their “political reliability” was assessed as “good”.

    Sinclair Davidson says 'Just after the non-story about Bolt being South African the article implies that his mother was a Nazi.'

    Steve from Brisbane says Oh really Sinclair. As the paragraph also says their “political reliability” for immigration was noted as “good”, I took to have the obvious meaning that they were, um, not fascists.

    And now that I re-read it, as it notes their ages at the time they came to Australia, it’s clear they were young children during the war.

    Maybe you should have been a defamation lawyer. Your cases may have provided entertainment value, at least.'

    Then Sinclair then goes beserk having to justify the unjustifiable
    You stupid f..k-nut – you asked for information, I responded. The appropriative response is ‘I didn’t read that into the article, but thank you’.

    Can some-one point out just where the implication since Sinclair is incapable of doing this.

  14. Peter

    Looks like Sinclair Davidson is trying to ape the Bolt methodology, contempt for logic and facts.

  15. KB Keynes

    Judy from Catallaxy says two important bits are inaccurate.
    Elizabeth is not in the outback, However the article says it is a satellite town.
    Ann Summers comes from Adelaide so I didn't think she would say that.

    Summers says Bolt had a fiancee and she saw the ring whilst interviewing said former fiancee. Judy says the fulminating Bolt saying he had no fiancee.
    Either Ann saw no engagement ring or Bolt has bolted himself again.

  16. Paul Bamford

    Anyone else savouring the delicious irony of Australia's foremost adult cyber-bully writing an entire column about how kids should deal with being bullied? Maybe the plaintiffs in Eastock v Bolt should now take this advice from Andy to heart:

    ...remember that the school my column is small, but the world is wide. You may be the one of your kind now, but one day you will leave school, or home my column, and live not just among people you’re forced to be with, but among those you choose...

    It’s the difference in people that often makes them special and more interesting, especially when they are older. Who looks to a mob commenters on my blog for special insight, gift of originality, flair?

  17. Jikky

    "At the risk of taking “Jikky” more seriously than he deserves, generally when people refer to “climate change” these days they’re employing it as shorthand for “anthropogenic climate change”."

    Right. So Kens talking about me and not too me. And what Ken really means by "climate change" is "industrial CO2 release." So Ken is treating people as though they were pitiful Soviet peasants, who needed to be beaten into submission, by recourse to relentless propagandizing of Orwellian memes.

    Wouldn't this issue be more simple if only it was about scientific evidence?

  18. Dan

    "Wouldn’t this issue be more simple if only it was about scientific evidence?"

    Uh...

  19. Jikky

    You are just not that smart are you Dan? No you are not. You are only capable of grunting.

  20. Yobbo
    Interestingly, that debate is far less pronounced amongst people who actually conduct scientific work in that field.

    Of course it is, since the majority have already been caught out suppressing the work of and bullying the minority who disagree.

    You know, that whole scandal thing last year?

  21. Jikky

    "The debate is centred around how much the present warming is man-made versus a natural phenomenon."

    No that is incorrect. The debate is an endless loop focused on the reality that the proponents have not found any evidence for CO2-based warming, globally, at sea level, in the slightest. No evidence at all. And no sound apriori argument that there would be such CO2-based warming.

  22. steve from brisbane

    Jikky, you have to get on board with the current denialist meme. Your brand of skepticism was big about 7 years ago, but now it's more "no one is denying that CO2 may be causing some warming, it's just that it won't be catastrophic. In fact, it might be good for us!" Didn't you watch Bolt Report last weekend?

  23. steve from brisbane

    Oh, I see from another thread that Jikky is gone. How sad. He did sound rather Birdian on the other thread.

  24. Jason Soon

    When you get through with fashion narratives steve, you girlyman, you might like to come to grips with the reality that anything that works against progressive freezing is obviously a good thing, but no evidence exists that CO2-release is one of those things.

    Part of being a scientist is being an adult.

  25. FDB

    Sockpuppets are one thing Bird, but using other people's established identities is truly fucked.

  26. Jason Soon

    What is "truly fucked" FDB, is your language. Now lets go over it again. You are a liar, since you support what you purport to be a scientific case, without evidence. That's "rightly screwed" in anyone's bad language. And its not okay FDB. Its not acceptable behavior for lying anonymous filth to be causing the problems you are causing.

    Friends of mine tell me you don't know if your man or a lady? Is that truly true? Yes or no?

  27. FDB

    "Friends of mine"

    Plural?

    Now that's not even plausible Graeme.

  28. Jason Soon

    Well I don't think you are one to talk FDB. Is this an anti-Chinese thing? At least I know I'm a Chinaman. Whereas neither you nor your friends know if you are a bloke or a lady. How did that go for your ex-fiance? She must have been besides herself with confusion on this point. Just as you are.

  29. Peter

    Jason, I've heard tell you claim to be related to Sun Yet-sen, a pithy self-promoter and consummate bullshit artist who could talk a Maryknoll nun into doing 20 minutes of amateur internet porn. Are you indeed a descendant?

  30. Jason Soon

    I'm pretty sure I'm related to relatives of his, and I don't accept your communist and sodomite-inspired take on this great proponent of liberty and self-respect.

  31. Peter

    Sun Yet-sen was an ineffectual wanker, Jason Soon.

    On October 10, 1911, Sun Yat-sen, the alleged “Father of the Chinese Revolution” was in fact in the United States. On a train. Reading about it in a newspaper. There’s not a shred of evidence he had any idea what was about to happen.

    Once he learned that “his revolution” was underway, Sun of course hurried home via various European capitals where he exacted promises from the foreign powers not to intervene in escalating standoff between the weakened Qing dynasty and the revolutionaries. If anything it was his ability to convince the British, French, and Japanese to back the fuck off and let the Chinese sort things out themselves that was perhaps Sun’s greatest contribution to the success of the 1911 revolution.

    All that said, when the revolutionaries looked around for a figure who could unite the disparate parts of the republican cause, Sun’s longstanding reputation as a flaky but still famous pain in the ass to the Qing government came in handy, and he was a suitable compromise candidate as the new president when the Republic of China was founded on January 1, 1912 although he didn’t hold the job very long.

    Was he important to the revolution’s success? Possibly. Was he essential? Only in his own mind.

  32. Jason Soon

    Oh right. So your communist sensibilities lead you to the conclusion that the father of the revolution screwed up on the grounds that he wasn't able to time the uprising to happen just when he wanted it to.

    Not real smart hey commie. Mao is not coming back. I know it hurts but he's not coming back no matter how you wish upon a star. He's not you know. He's not.

  33. JC

    bird...you've stolen another ID now. Good effort.

  34. Jason Soon

    Its more than clear, from your own statements, if they are to be believed, that my man was ABSOLUTELY crucial to the revolution. Your narrative is notable for your conclusion being entirely at odds with your version of events. In other words your commie leanings cause you to be totally full of shit.

  35. Jason Soon

    Good Lord. Don't tell me that we are going to have bankster welfare-recipients chiming in with their expertise on Chinese revolutions?

  36. Peter

    You do realise, do you not, Jason Soon, that Sun Yat-sen grew up and went to school in Hawaii?

    Ring any bells?

    After completing high school he went back to Guangdong but he soon left that rural backwater for the bright lights of Hong Kong. Once there, he took to wearing Western clothing and pretentiously grew a little mustache. His Mandarin was nearly incomprehensible, but he was able to charm politicians, spivs and philanthropists and convince some of them to fund his dream of a revolutionary crusade.

    Sun was always in the right place with a forked tongue and one hand in some rich guy’s pocket.

  37. Jason Soon

    Its not helping you know. You've been shown to be quite unable to interpret the facts you have to hand. Gandhi once wore a top hat. I don't quite know what you can make of that. Quite a lot if you are a communist ideologue who wants all the credit to go to Stalin's little peasant bitch Mao.

  38. Peter

    Sun Yet-sen was an Obama figure. I really fail to see why you would support such a phony given the numerous parallels.

    Despite his elite power plays and self-aggrandising revolutionary politics in the years following the Wuchang Uprising, life for most of China continued as before, If anything it got worse as local elites either grew increasingly predatory or else retreated to the cities leaving many rural areas in the hands of rapacious thugocracies.

    For all his gimcrack plans, Sun and his cronies did little to alleviate the backbreaking poverty or provide the kinds of state services needed to keep farmers’ bodies and souls together in times of natural disasters or famine.

    For most of the early part of the 20th century, the average Chinese farmer and his family lived a precarious existence, always one crop failure or bad season away from destitution and starvation.

    That was his legacy.

  39. whyisitso

    Is this just for the in-mob, or can anyone join in?

  40. Ken Parish

    I'm going for a swim so I'll let Birdie have his fun for a little longer.

  41. Peter

    Jason Soon, let me ask you this. Do you support the Occupy Wall Street Uprising in the US? If so, why?

  42. Jason Soon

    You are just full of shit Peter. By your own testimony you have shown that Sun was crucial to the revolution, whereas there is no revolution that Obama is crucial too. He's merely a banksters little bitch in the same way that Mao was Stalin's boy.

  43. Ken Parish

    BTW I really liked that second law of thermodynamics line you were running a while ago Graeme. I think you should reprise it. It's request time. The worst of Graeme Bird (a show chock full of extreme silliness).

  44. Jason Soon

    "Jason Soon, let me ask you this. Do you support the Occupy Wall Street Uprising in the US? If so, why?"

    Of course I do. The banksters have misappropriated 16 trillion dollars in the Us alone. Their hegemony has brought the UK, the US and the EUROZONE into permanent depression. Ergo the protestors need to see a one-sided jubilee of at least twice that amount, so the bankster hegemony can be put on the scrap-heap of history, and capitalism be restored.

  45. Jason Soon

    Ho ho. Ken now thinks his new-Keynesian dreams of a perpetual-joule creation machine, have overcome the second law of thermodynamics.

    Ken. When you have the second law of thermodynamics licked, be sure to alert ozblogistan, at your earliest available convenience.

  46. Peter

    I'm sorry you're related to that tosser, but we can't choose our relatives, so don's sweat it too much but fact is, Jason Soon, Sun Yet-sen was one of the top-10 all time pantheon bullshit artists in human history. Much like Obama.

  47. murph the surf.

    better than theatre.

  48. Jason Soon

    No sorry. You've already proved that he was the key man in Chinese independence, whereas your necrophilia for Mao is just a part of your house-slave status, being as Mao had strings coming off his back, that went all the way to Moscow.

  49. JC
    The banksters have misappropriated 16 trillion dollars in the Us alone.

    Bird

    Where did you get that number from? It sounds a little on the large side of things. You're not egg-aggerating are you?

  50. Jason Soon

    The welfare-recipient bankster JC decided not to weigh in on Chinese revolutions but instead charged over to Catallaxy to fail in basic banking and money creation theory. This is the sort of dumbell we have running things currently, so of course I support the wall street protests. We need to bring the worship of all things stupid and second-rate to an end.

  51. JC

    Bird I don't work for a bank and haven't for around 10 years now. You on the other hand did once work for a bank and blamed your ADD for being fired.

    But let me ask you again where you got that ginormous number from?

  52. whyisitso

    Homer? Jason Soon? Bird? JC? Ken Parish? Will the real ones please stand up.

  53. Peter

    Jason Soon, now you are talking sense my good man.

    Fractional reserve banking is the structural driver of both ecological overshoot and the ever-growing gap between rich and poor. Thus it drives outcomes that are the opposite to sustainability, the essential criteria for which are inter- and intra-generational equity. A transition to 100% reserve will help to address this systemic root of unsustainability.

    New money should come into existence free of debt, issued by a publicly owned (people's) central bank. New money should be spent into circulation for the public good, essentially to fund the rapid transition to a sustainable footing. Solar thermal electricity generation plant is a good example of such expenditure. The effect of this arrangement will be to channel money to public need, whereas the current system channels it to entrepreneurs whose aim generally is to solely or mainly to make money which often means serving the needs often of the already wealthy.

    The reality that the current financial system amounts to a pyramid or Ponzi scheme that allows the current generation to live in debt to future generations and in ecological debt must be highly publicised so that the general public can understand the way they are stealing from their descendents.

    This is what the Occupy Wall Street Uprising is doing.

  54. Peter

    Mr Soon, I have not mentioned Mao. You are the only one who has mentioned him. Do you have a crush on him, perchance? Your slimy debating tactics are reminiscent of your worst enemies. Do not turn into your enemy. Then they will have won.

  55. JC
    Homer? Jason Soon? Bird? JC? Ken Parish? Will the real ones please stand up.

    lol

    Bird's changed the paradigm. No one knows who is who anymore.

  56. Jason Soon

    Peter has the right idea on money supply. Whether commodity-based or not money ought to be without debt. Anyone saying otherwise is a fool or a house-slave.

  57. Homer Paxton

    I was getting sick of using pseudonyms.

  58. Ken Parish

    A classic thread. Where is Nabakov?

  59. Nabakov

    I'm here.

  60. Peter

    Mr Soon, banks should be public service operations providing loans to households for big ticket items and small businesses so they can invest. They should not be engaged in speculation and risk-taking on Wall Street or elsewhere to provide big bonuses for their senior managers and higher returns for their private shareholders.

    The best way to avoid more banking collapses is to bring the banking sector into public ownership. The bailouts of the banks in 2008 attempted no such thing. In the US, TARP, thought up by the then US treasury secretary Hank Paulson, the former head of Goldman Sachs, was just that – relief for bank shareholders and bond holders in the form of $700bn of taxpayers money handed over to the bank executives. It socialised the risk i.e it was socialism for the rich, while we got capitalism.

    No wonder Revolution is in the air.

  61. Ken Parish

    That's not the real Nabakov either. Is everyone actually Bird when it comes down to it in the blogosphere hall of mirrors?

  62. JC
    .....relief for bank shareholders and bond holders in the form of $700bn of taxpayers money handed over to the bank executives

    Really? Which group of shareholders didn't have their private parts handed over to them in a government provided silver platter? They were all diluted.... the worst offenders were diluted to hell.

    For instance...... don't confuse the recent Citigroup price suggesting the shareholders got off. The firm had a reverse split 1 for 10. It's really trading at $2.60 before the split.

    It was the bondholders that got off.

    The government made a decent profit off the banks by the way... around $14 to 20 Billion.

    And the money was NOT handed over, as you suggest. The government bought preferred stock well coated with a swag of warrants (long term options) that were sold back to the firms once they gained a stronger capital footing at market prices and the preferred stock was paying a fairly punishing fixed dividend.

    There really seems to be a great deal of misinformation about this part of the government's activities during the GFC, as people think the government handed over money to the banks. It certainly was not the case.

  63. JC

    lol

    I think perhaps the best thing to do is everyone should change their moniker to Bird.

  64. Dan

    Jikky,

    I'm very smart. *Really* smart. So smart that I know how little I know.

    This thread is a fiasco.

  65. observa

    One thing we can all agree on, it's not about global warming any more. It's all about the climate changing now. And with science like that there's only one logical conclusion we can come to. Climate change scientists are barely competent at communicating with the public and don't have the wherewithal to do so.

    Apparently all they need is 2004 style news outlets, television or papers to get 70% of their message across to the public, but alas all they've got now are those Godawful Fox jocks to contend with.

  66. Paul Bamford

    What's your point Obby? That man-made climate change is real but those damn scientists didn't do enough to make you listen when they said so? Damascus is thataway.

  67. jtfsoon

    I can confirm that the above is not me and sounds suspiciously like Graeme M Bird. Another new low you’ve sunk to, Bird though I suppose I can give you some credit for defending my Glorious Semi-Ancestor and Father of the True Chinese Revolution Before It Was Exproporiated by Mao.

    (The Real Jason Soon)

  68. Pedro

    "I’m very smart. *Really* smart. So smart that I know how little I know."

    Well, if you don't think you know much, why bang on about it? :-)

  69. whyisitso

    Are we all back to real?

    A relatively unknown blogger also doubts whether the public Andrew Bolt is really a conservative. He reckons he was first to question Andrew's conservative credentials.

    By the way Homer, during yesterday's childish escapades I was Homer Paxton (see comment 58), and in doing so I set up homerpaxton@gmail.com, which was surprisingly available. It's yours if you want it, but getting the password to you would be tricky. Gmail addresses are being regularly hijacked these days from people who are careless with passwords.

  70. Dan

    Pedro@69 - not a Socrates fan, I see...

  71. I am Bird's undies

    Help!

  72. KB Keynes

    Birdy,

    why don't you have a go at Sinclair as well.
    In fact do the whole Catallaxy show while you are on a roll.

    Whyisitso.
    I already have an e-mail address thanks

  73. JC

    Homer

    That's pretty nasty egging Bird to do something really wrong. What part of the bible says that?

    You're very bitter about your "exit" at the Cat it seems. But you only have yourself to blame. You know that right?

  74. Graeme Bird

    People, people, calm down. If we just reason as men and women of goodwill, I'm sure we can form a consensus on how best to deal with very real challenges like climate change and an unstable global economey.

    I've always had great admiration for the many fine minds across the Oz blogosphere and I look forward to a productive and mutually respectful dialogue with you all and one without resorting to wild theories about diamond nano-rods, fractional reserve banking and such like.

  75. Ken Parish

    Ah, the old double pseudonym with reverse pike and inverted personality gambit. You don't see that one very often these days ...

  76. Graeme Bird

    Thank you Ken. I've always appreciated your views on my views.

  77. KB Keynes

    Why is it nasty?. Quite entertaining in a schizophrenic sort of sense. so why not the kit and kaboodle.

    no Having the temerity to say THIS completely destroys classical economics gets you banned

  78. JC

    Homer:

    From what I recall you were booted for the same reason you were booted from Blair's site and Chris Sheil's threads. Your silly comments were oppressive at times.... well most times.

    Now go apologize to Sinclair, ask if you can post comments there and see what happens.

    If anything it will offer Troppo some respite.

  79. KB Keynes

    Your memory is like Bolts!

  80. Sally

    @72 - JC is not even fit to be Bird's undies, as much as he clearly yearns to be.

    Prince Charles, eat your heart out.

  81. Sally

    One of the funniest and most apt comments in Anne Summers' deconstruction of the Bolt phenomenon was her description of the way in which his blog "minions" attack rival journalists, political figures and others, generally under cover of anonymity, via abusive, often threatening emails and blog comments reminiscent of nothing so much as "a dog bringing a stick back to its master".

  82. JC
    JC is not even fit to be Bird’s undies

    I don't wear extra, extra large bloomers Phil, like you and Bird do.

    One of the funniest and most apt comments in Anne Summers’ deconstruction of the Bolt phenomenon was her description of the way in which his blog “minions” attack rival journalists, political figures and others, generally under cover of anonymity, via abusive,

    Well yea like pretending you're a woman writing criminally slanderous stuff at Bird's blog acting like you're my spouse (keep dreaming)..A fine one to be criticizing Bolt's followers.

  83. Sally

    I don't know it's a crime for a spouse to lust after another man, JC. Bad luck for you if your spouse does, but no, not a crime.

  84. Jinmaro

    I don't know who this Sally is, but she ain't no feminist.

  85. paul walter

    Ah, so THIS is the notorious Bird, of Catallaxy legend. So, finally caught you out in the open. See, Crystal Pyramids DO work! Does Bird do Bingo Bango Bongo or HuggyBunny, or is it someone else? Where are Peter Patton and Gabrielle when you need them, or were they the instigators of the current Catallaxy mayhem in the first place?

  86. Ken Parish

    Paul

    I'm afraid all is not what it seems. The person signing himself Graeme Bird is not actually Bird, it's actually another pseudonymous commenter called Nabakov. Bird has mostly been calling himself Jason Soon on this thread after his "Jikky" ID got banned. But some comments are by the REAL Jason Soon. And the person calling himself Homer Paxton on this thread is actually another pseudonymous commenter called whyisitso. And the REAL Homer Paxton is currently calling himself KB Keynes. Oh yes, and I'm pretty sure that the person calling himself jinmaro is not jinmaro. jinmaro is currently calling herself Sally. Peter Patton was once known as John Greenfield which may or may not be his real name. I'm not sure about Bingo Bango Bongo or HuggyBunny or Gabrielle.

    You see, it's perfectly straight forwardreally, if extremely silly.

  87. paul walter

    So, the Soon comments that make sense will be from Nabakov. A definitely, well.."comprehensive" run down on these, ah, folk.. Re one remark, I'd ask, what's the point of being married if you can't perv on other people's spouses- NO time off for good behaviour? Yes, gay people can do this too, it they're THAT resolutely set on of repeating the mistake their hetero fellows in what's euphemistically known as "tying the knot", first.

  88. paul walter

    Actually this a mine of information. So Peter Patton was/is one of Jack Greenfield's socks? Gosh, If Jack had had as many dollars as he had socks he'd have been/be a milionaire. I understood he'd began the long journey to the great Septic Tank in the sky, but this is premature? Jinmaro I know from years ago, when we both got pitched off LP for stoushing with Kym during a eventually rancorous race/gender blue, so long ago Ezekiel was still opening the bowling for Uruk.

  89. Pedro

    Dan, good to see you can stay serious in a most unserious thread.

    "blog comments reminiscent of nothing so much as “a dog bringing a stick back to its master”

    And now here's a dog returning to the vomit
    "JC is not even fit to be Bird’s undies"

    "I’d ask, what’s the point of being married if you can’t perv on other people’s spouses"
    Paul, surely marriage is not a precondition for spouse perving? So the cause of marriage remains undertermined.

  90. paul walter

    If not totally irrelevant, Pedro (marriage). I'd be inclined to acept your implicit proposition that some thing darker is afoot, here. How have so many many people been so cruelly hoaxed, over such a long span of time.

  91. Dan

    Pedro - I think you mistake my drollness for a hair shirt draped over a stack of cinder blocks.

  92. KB Keynes

    Ken,

    My name is a very closely guarded secret. I can confirm as a young man I did drink KB keynes however these days it is Heineken on the few occasions I drink beer. I prefer wine.

  93. Homer Paxton

    I'm a wino too, and I don't live in the inner west - more the middle west. Ken (the real one) is gunna pull the plug on this lark any minute! Underneath it all, he's a really serious dude.

  94. KB Keynes

    wow,

    I wish I was named Homer Paxton,

    what a great name.

    I have never lived in the inner west. Great place for enjoying a drink of wine whilst eating.

    no Ken won't pull the plug parish the thought

  95. Ken Parish

    "no Ken won’t pull the plug parish the thought"

    Bad puns are the absolutely certain sign of the real Homer Paxton. BTW I COULD close down the thread if the real Bird returns and turns nasty. He was relatively amiable if quite made as usual on his last visit, and just about all other participants are veteran blog stoushers who take it in the right spirit. This is the sort of thread that should be assiduously avoided by the deeply serious-minded. Mind you, we might have to do something about the ID hijacking if Bird keeps it up, although I'll be buggered if I know what.

    BTW Are there any tech heads out there who can explain to me how Bird always manages to come back straight away with not only a different pseudonym and email address (simple to achieve) but a different IP address as well? I've been blacklisting his IP addresses but that only seems to slow him momentarily.

  96. KB Keynes

    damned good pun so you must be wrong.

    Ken you identify Birdie or ken't you

  97. paul walter

    I think you're upsetting them, Ken. They've tried to hunt down Bird, too. But Bird has eluded even them. When asked for an update, the discomfiture becomes manifest. " They seek him here, they seek him there.."

  98. Mel

    Ken

    There are applications like Tor that allow users to access a new IP address each time they log in to the application. The Birdster must be using one of these types of applications.

  99. KB Keynes

    Mel,
    I am glad you torld him that.

    It was toring him apart

  100. Pedro

    "They seek him here, they seek him there"

    The scarlett pimpernel? More like the bottom pimple.

  101. jtfsoon

    Homer you should stick with the puns as you're not much chop on history, economics, statistics or other serious areas of human endeavour

  102. KB Keynes

    really Mr Soon,

    you claim that Keynesian economics was used in the 70s but couldn't nominate one time when there was a liquidity trap.

    you claimed the night of the long knives was proof that most Germans were overcome by nazi terror but didn't know that most Germans approved indeed you didn't even know what sopade files were.

    you have Bolted yourself again.

    not only do you not have a chop you not even close to a sausage!

  103. KB Keynes

    wow you put in a hyperlink and whammo it goes into the ether

  104. KB Keynes

    I do apologize for talking on topic but I am amused that the Editor in chief at the paper did not who was moderating the blog and was under the impression Bolt's wife was doing it.
    Fancy Summers taking the word of the Editor in chief. The hide of her
    It is now moderated in house. Hmm why?

    This was allegedly a hatchet job but naturally enough none of the accusers provide any evidence for that.
    Where was it or was it like Sinclair Davidson's nazi slurs. Nowhere to be seen except in his head.

  105. Paul Bamford

    Boltenfreude (noun): the warm inner glow that you get from reading Bromberg J's findings in Eatock v Bolt (from 378);

    Boltschmerz (noun): The sullied feeling you get after writing a column in support of Andrew Bolt's right to unfettered free speech (e.g. "Paul Kelly had a really bad case of Boltschmerz yesterday."

  106. Pedro

    Leftratsel: the strange celebratory focus on the death of Samson from an adjacent position under the temple blocks.

  107. Homer Paxton

    I'm just sitting at home, after attending a Hillside Sunday fund raising religious service, listening to my vinyl recordings of my favorite modern music ..... A medley of Bachman Turner Overdrives Greatest Hit